Originally posted by rainbow123
Like others. It would be kind of hard for spider-man to defeat Daredevil, Captain America and Wolverine all at once. He may when for his super-strength and spider-sense. I think he also has to defeat Wolverine last, in my opinion.
Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
How so?Daredevil has martial arts and super senses, spiderman has some street fighting and a spider-sense, Captain america has durability and street fighting, Wolverine has healing and claws for a weapon with some street fighting.
Spidey's durability is far beyond Caps. He shrugs off everything from Ock's tentacles to Rhino's charges.
And the spider sense combined with his speed, agility, and reflexes superior to DD makes him superior in that field to DD.
Wolverine's healing factor has been exaggerated, how could he heal from having his organs reduced to jelly, I can understand the Hulk doing so, for it's hard to accomplish such a feat when in battle with the guy int he first place. But Wolvie's stomach is easy to penetrate for someone like Spidey. And aside from the various organs Spidey could snatch him swiftly and with ease, he could just pound away at Wolvie's vital organs (the ones he can't live without) until they're reduced to a bloody mass of jelly beyond repair and functioning while avoiding his claws. Remember, his claws are just a little longer than his forearm, and Spidey could easily maneuver out of their reach before closing in for the kill.
Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
I think you people are spreading this out more than it needs to be debated over.Edit: Thinking to hard about it, I mean.
"I really admire your persistence, and when I said "You can't use everything from comics to help your arguments" I didn't mean you couldn't, you can, I just don't think it's helping."
I deffer to quote time in my last post. 🙂
"And when Spidey was given him everything he had physically, Wolvie's organs should've turned to jelly on contact, they did when he was fighting the Hulk."
And just as they did while fighting the Hulk, they would be healed by the next blow.
"And while Spidey's not the Hulk, he still can do sufficient enough damage to his organs with his punches that would in fact reduce them to jelly."
agreed, but once again they would heal almost immediately. so who cares?
"And you stated yourself that Wolvie is not faster than Spidey, so just becuase something like what you posted happened in comics, doesn't mean it would happen if Spidey was using ALL of his abilities to their greatest extents, and he is. So Spidey will win quite soundly, and easily."
once again i deffer to quote time. lol. he did go all out, or are you having trouble grasping that concept?
"And next time, trying posting everything I post in an argument, instead of one or two sentences. I know you don't have good retortions to them, I just want to see what you post as a reaction."
Once again somewhat insulting,,,, and all because we share different views. Are you prejudice in anyway?,,, I'm just curious.
anyways, Nah, this isn't a run for the presidency, I'll debate on these forums as I please thankyou.
"And aside from the various organs Spidey could snatch him swiftly and with ease, he could just pound away at Wolvie's vital organs (the ones he can't live without) until they're reduced to a bloody mass of jelly beyond repair and functioning while avoiding his claws. Remember, his claws are just a little longer than his forearm, and Spidey could easily maneuver out of their reach before closing in for the kill."
once again, you're giving spidey a huge benifit of the doubt. He'll be having a hard enough time dodging wolverine's claws alone, but you're forgetting he'll also be getting pounded by a couple of idol superheroes, a billy club, and a sheild.......and um well spidey usually doesn't go in for the kill,,,just incase you haven't noticed.
Originally posted by jinzin
"I really admire your persistence, and when I said "You can't use everything from comics to help your arguments" I didn't mean you couldn't, you can, I just don't think it's helping."I deffer to quote time in my last post. 🙂
"And when Spidey was given him everything he had physically, Wolvie's organs should've turned to jelly on contact, they did when he was fighting the Hulk."
And just as they did while fighting the Hulk, they would be healed by the next blow.
"And while Spidey's not the Hulk, he still can do sufficient enough damage to his organs with his punches that would in fact reduce them to jelly."
agreed, but once again they would heal almost immediately. so who cares?
"And you stated yourself that Wolvie is not faster than Spidey, so just becuase something like what you posted happened in comics, doesn't mean it would happen if Spidey was using ALL of his abilities to their greatest extents, and he is. So Spidey will win quite soundly, and easily."
once again i deffer to quote time. lol. he did go all out, or are you having trouble grasping that concept?
"And next time, trying posting everything I post in an argument, instead of one or two sentences. I know you don't have good retortions to them, I just want to see what you post as a reaction."
Once again somewhat insulting,,,, and all because we share different views. Are you prejudice in anyway?,,, I'm just curious.
anyways, Nah, this isn't a run for the presidency, I'll debate on these forums as I please thankyou.
"And aside from the various organs Spidey could snatch him swiftly and with ease, he could just pound away at Wolvie's vital organs (the ones he can't live without) until they're reduced to a bloody mass of jelly beyond repair and functioning while avoiding his claws. Remember, his claws are just a little longer than his forearm, and Spidey could easily maneuver out of their reach before closing in for the kill."
once again, you're giving spidey a huge benifit of the doubt. He'll be having a hard enough time dodging wolverine's claws alone, but you're forgetting he'll also be getting pounded by a couple of idol superheroes, a billy club, and a sheild.......and um well spidey usually doesn't go in for the kill,,,just incase you haven't noticed.
You said it yourself that Spidey was faster than Wolvie, so if he was really going all out, he should've won.
There are plenty of ways that Spidey could stun-to-kill Wolvie like, knocking him out with a well-placed punch to the skull, it may break his hand, but Wolvie would feel the blow alot worse via concussion.
Then there's my organ snatching theory. Wolvie can't regenerate or grow new organs right? And Wolvie's stomach isn't protected by adamantium right? And Spidey is faster than Wolvie right? So, he could in turn get to Wolvie's stomach with a speedblitz, punching through it in the process and snatch out an organ that Wolvie couldn't live without while dodging Wolvie's claws, remember those nifty reflexes that are 30-40 times faster than that of a human? Yeah.
He wouldn't have to immobilize Wolvie, since he's fighting to the best of his abilities, he's goin' for the kill. You can't seem to come to terms with the fact that a character's personality or philosophy on killing is changed in a fight on THIS BOARD, if they're fighting to the best of their abilities, it doesn't matter if they don't kill.
And I've already explained to you that Spidey could and would easily dispose of Cap. and DD with two speedblitzes. Remember, aside from being faster and more powerful than they are, he's alot more maneuverable on his feet, especially when he's fighting to the best of his abilites. After that, it's just him and Wolvie, and I don't think I have to remind you of how Spidey could defeat him quite soundly.
And no I'm not prejudice, and I find it quite funny that you would use such a remark just to get a point across that you can't back up with credible logic. I was only saying that you should try posting my entire argument so that you could show everyone what a fraud you are. I really don't know your problem. And I really don't know where you get off calling me prejudice just because I am unappreciative of you using one or two of my sentences in a full statement, just so you could have something to say. Don't get mad with me just because I don't find your "method of debating" debating at all.
Sorry to come out of knowwhere here and ruin your fun but Wolverine actually can completely reform his entire body and internal organs which has been seen when Magneto ripped Logan's entire adamantium skeleton out of his body or the time Deadpool ripped his heart out of his chest...or even better the time he actually got beamed by a nuclear weapon and evaporated (thats what nukes do) and healed back.
Once again I am amazed this thread is still going strong considering an entire movie was recently released to the public called "DareDevil vs. Spider-man" and if Marvel really believes the man without fear is a wourthy foe of the webhead then Wolverine will rip the son of a ***** to pieces before Captain America even has time to smack him with his shield and considering aunt May is a poor old bag were pretty much looking at a very cheap funeral. Not that any half way decent one would allow an open casket after these guys are done with him!
Another thing that bothers me here if Spider-man has trouble with a few bankrobbers with guns how the hell is he going to win this fight? I have seen him fight DareDevil without landing a single blow and if he missed DD this time Captain America will catch him and Wolverine stabs him in the stumauch and thats the end of this pathetic game. DareDevil beat Doc Ock alot quicker then Spider-man so this will be an easy victory.
Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
Sorry to come out of knowwhere here and ruin your fun but Wolverine actually can completely reform his entire body and internal organs which has been seen when Magneto ripped Logan's entire adamantium skeleton out of his body or the time Deadpool ripped his heart out of his chest...or even better the time he actually got beamed by a nuclear weapon and evaporated (thats what nukes do) and healed back.Once again I am amazed this thread is still going strong considering an entire movie was recently released to the public called "DareDevil vs. Spider-man" and if Marvel really believes the man without fear is a wourthy foe of the webhead then Wolverine will rip the son of a ***** to pieces before Captain America even has time to smack him with his shield and considering aunt May is a poor old bag were pretty much looking at a very cheap funeral. Not that any half way decent one would allow an open casket after these guys are done with him!
And you still haven't proven how Wolverine could heal from getting knocked out courtesy of a well-placed shot to the skull.
I've already given proof on how Spidey could do thatt and defeat DD despite any movie coming out about DareDevil fighting Spidey. Spidey's faster, stronger, more enduring, stronger-willed, more durable, etc. than DD and could easily lay him down and out wit a speedblitz faster than DD can react. All that of which you have posted have proven to me how you can take stuff from a media that will pitch ideas for Christmas movies in October just to reel in money just to help your argument. I don't mean to criticize, but if you really wanted to prove your point, you probably should've decided to post these ideas a few pages back.
Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
Another thing that bothers me here if Spider-man has trouble with a few bankrobbers with guns how the hell is he going to win this fight? I have seen him fight DareDevil without landing a single blow and if he missed DD this time Captain America will catch him and Wolverine stabs him in the stumauch and thats the end of this pathetic game. DareDevil beat Doc Ock alot quicker then Spider-man so this will be an easy victory.
And DD beating Doc Ock, the guy who has tentacles with the strength of a superhuman and speed that rivals if not equals that of Spidey? That's crap writing, maybe not at it's finest, like DD beating Spidey, Venom, and Carnage in a few pages, that would be insane, but DD beating Ock alone and quickly isn't exactly sensible writing.
Spidey has rarely gone all out, and when he has, alot of people including Green goblin, Doc Ock, Iron Man 2020, and Sin Eater, have suffered the consequences.
Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
Sorry to come out of knowwhere here and ruin your fun but Wolverine actually can completely reform his entire body and internal organs which has been seen when Magneto ripped Logan's entire adamantium skeleton out of his body or the time Deadpool ripped his heart out of his chest...or even better the time he actually got beamed by a nuclear weapon and evaporated (thats what nukes do) and healed back.
Wolverine cannot completely reform his entire body.
Magneto did NOT "rip his entire adamantium skeleton out of his body." Do you have the comic book? I think it was X-Men #75. He BLED it out -- i.e., changed the composition and PULLED it out.
It is not as if he pulled out his skeleton intact. He turned it into a liquid type material first. Biiiiiig difference.
As far as Wolverine's healing factor, it is vastly overrated. This is the same Wolverine who passed out from being poisoned after drinking a cup of *tea* in Uncanny #173.
Wolverine takes it to spidey 1 on 1 and so does DD and all you have to combat that is the "crap wrinting excuse"? pfffft and then you tell me that my meathod of debating isn't debating? lol yeah you really got it down though don't ya (insert sarcasm here).
speedblitz my ass, cap takes out a guy moving so fast it seems like he's teleporting, wolive catches a demon that moves at light speeds, need i say more?
Organ snatching? unless spidey wants six adamantium reasons why he shouldn't try that.....well he should probably just not try that.
the prejudice thing was simply question not a statement, once again you're assuming my posts to mean more than they really do. I never called you anything, I was just finding it interesting how you continuously resort to having to use petty insults because the debate isn't going well for you and because we share opposing veiwpoints.
And mad? who said i was mad? your outrageous posts are making me laugh and chuckle more than anything. lol