Smoking should it be ban?

Did we need computers, microwaves, tv, ...?

we made ourself dependant on computers, microwave and tv`s though no.( I hardly watch tv and we dont have a microwave)
Thing with cellphones is that people have made a false need for always bring it along, it aint a necessity at all it is nothing but an addiction.

Some pubs in Norway actually doesnt allow people using the cell phones inside, they say the signal disrupt their cash register system so if you wanna chat you have to go outside .......to the smokers.

Also all movie theaters have signal disrupter's inside so the cell phones become disfunctional.

If your friends smoke do you really think they'll want to hang out in a smoke free bar? Theyd much rather hang around at home and pop out to the off licences, so you'll end up being in a smokey environment again.

tahts the choice you as anon smokers gonna make

to alienate our friends?

Originally posted by Storm
They are - what you could call - a necessary evil. Cigarettes are not. We don' t need cigarettes they way we need cellphones, computers, ...

actually, cell phones, computers, microwaves are not necessities they are all luxuries.

to alienate our friends?

I don't have that many friends who smoke those who do smoke normaly don't smoke in doors if other ppl mind it, I don't know anyone that hooked on it that they would rather be alone than come to a bar and not smoke for an evening, besides they can still go out on the street and smoke.

I don't know how you guys go out, but I'm almost as much in street as I am in a bar when I go out

Originally posted by Scarpa
Now I understand why your so stupid

saw this a bit late...
well...i would normally retaliate to such a comment...but it looks like someone was banned...😂 🤣 😂 oh well 🙄

Originally posted by Storm

They are - what you could call - a necessary evil. Cigarettes are not. We don' t need cigarettes they way we need cellphones, computers, ...

Wow, tvs, microwaves, computers are necessary? Wonder why the history books left all that out when we studied the Middle Ages or the Civil War?

This argument is silly. Most smokers I know do try very hard not to offend others. Its the nons that have now become fanatical & uncomprimising. This is America remember? Freedom of choice? Ring a bell?

^^^^
true

unfortunately, america is becoming the land of freedom to choose how everybody ELSE lives.

if you dont want to deal with cigarette smoke, that is your right. but dont blame ALL smokers for the rudeness of a handful of idiots. and who the hell is someone to tell another they HAVE to be healthy in everything they do?

i like to call these people "health nazis"

you know how many people are hurt and killed because of alcohol? there is NOTHING healthy about alcohol,in fact its poison in every sense of the word.
yet, most people enjoy it responsibly...and by the same logic as certain nonsmokers, those who would DARE have a beer should have to pay out of pocket for the damages cause by alcohol. stupid huh? well, thats the same stupid logic.

It' s called evolution bilbofett. If we' re going down that road... You wouldn' t need a couch, cutlery, ... either, when you can sit on your ass on the floor and eat with your fingers...

Step out of your world and look into mine. This is Belgium. Maybe you have non-smoking bars but we don' t have them.

cant believe I'm saying this......PVS is absolutely right. Only reason alcohol hasn't been banned is PAC $$$ - also true of cigs too probably. But my point is that other than Heroin & crack NONE of it should be banned! If I wanna do damage to myself, I'm a big girl & should be able to without some idiot politician having a say while he's talking kickbacks.

And Storm....you're right....it is evolution. Point is none of our conveinences are necessary, they are luxuries. And to that end, tobacco has been around a hell of alot longer than TVs, couches, et all. Almost from the beginning of recorded history it has been a part of life.....why are we so above it now? You really think our lives are bettter thanks to technology? Get a grip. Has caused way more problems than it solves, always has, always will.

I am truly sorry that you feel your rights are infringed upon, but perhaps a change of perspective rather than insults are what is required here.

You have the luxury of a choice. Or I don' t go out, or I take the smoke for granted. Try to see my perspective.

Storm I can understand I really do. I think whats so frustrating is that not ALL smokers behave in such a lousy way. Yet we are ALL lumped together as being rude, air killing poeple. See what I mean?

Have I ever said that all smokers are being rude?

It' s rather easy to say that I would have to change my perspective while you have the choice of a smoke free bar and we don' t.

i have not seen YOU say anything bad about smokers in general,
but many MANY people do storm.
i have been looked down on by nonsmokers with such a sneer you would
think i had a needle dangling out of my arm. seriously

Argh Storm! I am trying to be nice here and you are getting defensive. Did I say you specifically said this? NO, but if you'll go back over the thread, you'll see that some did allude to it. And you have to admit that many people act this way towards smokers. Unless maybe they dont have that going on over there, but I can assure you that in the US it is rampant.

I' m sorry but if you can state that you feel as if all smokers are lumped together as being rude than the least I can say is that I don' t belong to that kind category of people.

If the smoke bothers you that much then don't go to bars. Problem solved. There are other places to socialize.

They're bars for gods sake, smoking SHOULD be allowed in them if nowhere else. Going into a bar every now and then where people are smoking won't hurt you. Despite what the stupid health hippies and truth retards may lead you to believe.