Originally posted by By Crom!
You're not very bright are you?🙂
Just because you have multiple SOCKs to create dumb forum identities, doesn't make you immune to my ignore button. Fortunately I will not read what you write from henceforth, after combing through your posts I can say with certainty that this is a good thing.
Originally posted by Kutulu
Just because you have multiple SOCKs to create dumb forum identities, doesn't make you immune to my [b]ignore button. Fortunately I will not read what you write from henceforth, after combing through your posts I can say with certainty that this is a good thing. [/B]
To many big words for you? I guess!
🙂
Originally posted by King Kandy
First of all, I want to state that prior to joining KMC, I read the phoenix debates for entertainment. It was like TV for me. I did that for about a year or two, off and on, before actualy joining. So I've heard some pretty old stuff. I was around back when GS was basing his arguments on Kabbalah symboligy.And I remember the time back when those cropped Stranger scans were being circulated. GS is telling the truth about the cell phone camery story, and also about the extra-extra close-up.
If memory serves me correctly, GS tossed in that extra-close-up because some people were asking whether it was LT in the scan or not. Some even claimed that it was (I can't believe this) the silver surfer. So that part, at least, is excused.
Thank you. 🙂
My comments about the scene showing Phoenix as humbling LT were a throwback from a year ago where it was my view that as Phoenix was the power that fuelled the process that saw LT get replaced, it was therefore greater than LT. After debates with many of KMC' s veterans my opinion was changed and i didnt believe that occurance to be indicative of Phoenixes superiority because it was after all a natural process, part of the natural order that LT subscribes to, as opposed to a battle.
Thank you for verifying why the shots were taken as they were.
With that in mind plus the fact that my comments were from a completely understandable previous viewpoint which changed long ago through debate, Mr Masters constant parading of those scans and my commenst are now rendered both irrelevant and futile. 🙂
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
And so what if those are the same scans? It proves the point that the Phoenix can be killed. But G.S. ignores it. And you seem to not care about the arguement at all. By Crom 🙄!
Those scans showed no such thing. Galactus said himself that all the machine was going to do was remove the Force from Rachel, thereby returning it to the cosmos.
In spite of that Mr Master has somehow tried to make out as if Galactus' machine was killing the Force when all it was ever going to do was extract it. 🙂
Originally posted by qqqqqqq
GS outdebated by MM? I'm surprised...
Never happened.
I posted a scan actually stating the point im trying to prove thereby shattering Mr M's arguments, he then reposted a barrrage of scans accompanied by his opinion of whats stated within them.
Said scans ive already debated with him. I refused to do so again and once again told him i would not argue the same old Phoenix issues again in an open forum where he is free to ignore my counters and just repost his previously handled opinion like our debate had never happened, again and again and again until his defeat is buried. 😉
I said if he wants to finally step up and face me in a challenge thread then we can debate these issues relentlessly. At that point i stepped out of the thread.
Ive come back and im satisfied that King Kandy has verified my account on those scans, meaning Mr Master has to focus on countering my points as opposed to attacking my credibility when i leave him stumped. 😄
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thank you for verifying why the shots were taken as they were.With that in mind plus the fact that my comments were from a completely understandable previous viewpoint which changed long ago through debate, Mr Masters constant parading of those scans and my commenst are now rendered both irrelevant and futile.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Ive come back and im satisfied that [B]King Kandy has verified my account on those scans, meaning Mr Master has to focus on countering my points as opposed to attacking my credibility when i leave him stumped. [/B]
You should of let this die in page 8, but you had to stuff your foot in your mouth yet again. Now your bringing King Kandy into this as a means to seek redemption. 😆
King Kandy WASN'T referring to the DELIBERATE FABRICATION of the STRANGER/JEAN SCAN, he was talking about the "CLOSE UP" shot you did, he says because people thought it was the Silver Surfer.
I replied with:
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I forgot to mention how Xmen Forever clearly depicts how one wielding the phoenix power becomes supreme over creation. With enough power to humble LT even:
Read what he says above,
his intention was to show LT bowing to Jean.
The STRANGER was completely CUT OUT and NEVER mentioned.
KK, now replies:
Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah, I know that. I never adressed the purpose of the scan itself ,only the extra close up on LT.
GS, when are you going to stop flip flopping evidence to serve your purpose?
WHEN?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Those scans showed no such thing. Galactus said himself that all the machine was going to do was remove the Force from Rachel, thereby returning it to the cosmos.In spite of that Mr Master has somehow tried to make out as if Galactus' machine was killing the Force when all it was ever going to do was extract it.
If the machine was only going to "return it to the cosmos" ...WHY were the Stars going out? dontgetit
"Galactus the Stars, they are going out"
Then Roma says,
"THAT CHILD (Rachel Summers) IS PHOENIX, Living Embodiment of ONE of the Primal Forces, you can no more divide her spirit from flesh than you can life from death, there is a natural order to her being, as to yours, and all creation"
It seems Roma meant Phoenix couldn't be killed no matter what, but the next panel clarifies that for us.
Roma then says,
Galactus then says,
"my sustenance is living Planets, the Phoenix can Obliterate an entire Cosmos"
Then Mistress or in this case "Mr" Death responds with,
"and FROM that DEATH (Obliterate an entire Cosmos) bring about New Life (SPARK the Big Bang) but you're CHANGING that, BREAKING the ETERNAL PATTERN"
So the "Eternal Pattern" is Phoenix Force's ROLE in the Universe, to exist as the "SUSTENANCE of the STARS"
and cyclically SPARK the Big Bang which "Obliterates a Cosmos and brings about New Life"
SO the bottomline is,
the ETERNAL PATTERN was going to be BROKEN, and the STARS were GOING OUT.
How can anyone argue that Phoenix wasn't being ERASED from existence?
No wait, if you "return the Phoenix Force to the Cosmos" the Stars will go out and it will decide not to Spark the Big Bang anymore.
I don't get it, your telling me that Phoneix can't perform its duties in its Natural State?
So the Phoenix must be within Rachel to fuction as a Primal Force?
I thought Jean was the ultimate bond between Phoenix and host?
????
hum
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I posted a scan actually stating the point im trying to prove thereby shattering Mr M's arguments, he then reposted a barrrage of scans accompanied by his opinion of whats stated within them.
You posted a scan depicting Galactus's INTENTION, which was to separate the Phoenix Force from Rachel.
Then I posted other reletive scans from the same issue to prove that the Phoenix Force was DYING, when Galactus was separating it from Rachel, (because Rachel WAS the Force) just like ROMA SAID!
WITHOUT the Phoenix Force's existence the Stars will fade because they would have no energy to draw on, and the "ETERNAL PATTERN" (Phoenix SPARKING the Big Bang with its EXISTENCE) would be broken.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Said scans ive already debated with him. I refused to do so again and once again told him i would not argue the same old Phoenix issues again in an open forum where he is free to ignore my counters
Is this your new strategy to help your lost cause?
Telling the onlookers I ignore your counters when they are free to go back into this very same thread and SEE, I touch everything you say precisely?
You got some nerve.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
and just repost his previously handled opinion like our debate had never happened, again and again and again until his defeat is buried.
hysterical
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I said if he wants to finally step up and face me in a challenge thread then we can debate these issues relentlessly.
Whatever, I do what I do here and now when I can, no need for pats on my shoulder the confidence is secure. There ain't no money in it, and I see hundreds of views participating in these free dramas.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Ive come back and im satisfied that King Kandy has verified my account on those scans, meaning Mr Master has to focus on countering my points as opposed to attacking my credibility when i leave him stumped.
Like I "stumped" this particular part of this post previously?
Originally posted by Mr Master
You should of let this die in page 8, but you had to stuff your foot in your mouth yet again. Now your bringing King Kandy into this as a means to seek redemption. 😆King Kandy WASN'T referring to the DELIBERATE FABRICATION of the STRANGER/JEAN SCAN, he was talking about the "CLOSE UP" shot you did, he says because people thought it was the Silver Surfer.
I replied with:
Read what he says above,
his intention was to show LT bowing to Jean.
The STRANGER was completely CUT OUT and NEVER mentioned.
KK, now replies:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/313281_8-parallax-vs-dark-phoenix
GS, when are you going to stop flip flopping evidence to serve your purpose?
WHEN?
Silly boy. Just illustrating your inability to comprehend anything but the most basic of vocabulary.
I thanked KK for verifying why the pics were in said format, why they were shot how they were.
I then explained the reasons behind my previous interpretation. An interpretation i havent had for a long time, one that changed way before you tried to make an attack on my credibility by quoting me from year old threads.
You posted my old scans and then tried to use the format they were in to throw accusations that i was doctoring evidence to support my interpretation.
With KK's account your lies were squashed.
Makes me very happy young man. 😄
Just great...ANOTHER thread where Mr Master and GS duke it out over whether or not Phoenix 'Held a universe in her hands' or some other overtly hyped up bullshit.
You know I'm pretty damn sick and tired , f*ck it. Parallax recreates existence but conveniently forgets to add Phoenix .
Done , dusted and with minimum fuss.
- Gf
Originally posted by grey fox
Just great...ANOTHER thread where Mr Master and GS duke it out over whether or not Phoenix 'Held a universe in her hands' or some other overtly hyped up bullshit.You know I'm pretty damn sick and tired , f*ck it. Parallax recreates existence but conveniently forgets to add Phoenix .
Done , dusted and with minimum fuss.
- Gf
I like Grey Fox too..... even though he WOULDN'T LET ME IN HIS GROUP cursing
👇
hang
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thank you. 🙂With that in mind plus the fact that my comments were from a completely understandable previous viewpoint which changed long ago through debate, Mr Masters constant parading of those scans and my commenst are now rendered both irrelevant and futile. 🙂
No offense my friend but u sometimes have an ability to write a lot without justifying what u are stating.
If you translate this statement into Layman's English it reads
My viewpoint is understandable, although it has changed
Mr Master post scans, which are futile and irrelevant.
Do u see what i mean? There's no factual justification of you're argument.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Silly boy. Just illustrating your inability to comprehend anything but the most basic of vocabulary.I thanked KK for verifying why the pics were in said format, why they were shot how they were.
I then explained the reasons behind my previous interpretation. An interpretation i havent had for a long time, one that changed way before you tried to make an attack on my credibility by quoting me from year old threads.
You posted my old scans and then tried to use the format they were in to throw accusations that i was doctoring evidence to support my interpretation.
With KK's account your lies were squashed.
Makes me very happy young man.
stfu2
You won't "Johnnie Cochran" your way around this one duke. You wanted to post garbage well there's some of your own garbage.
I warned you, when you post lies and bullshit about me, I will pull your card.
And stop mentioning KK's account which does not help you in the least.
KK NEVER disputed you PLAYING yourself by deliberately fabricating the evidence to serve your Phoenix agenda.
And it has nothing to do with how your "interpretation" of the event has changed from now to when you were born,
simple and put, you tried to pull a fast one and got caught.
Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
No offense my friend but u sometimes have an ability to write a lot without justifying what u are stating.If you translate this statement into Layman's English it reads
My viewpoint is understandable, although it has changed
Mr Master post scans, which are futile and irrelevant.Do u see what i mean? There's no factual justification of you're argument.
Was that what it means?
With that in mind plus the fact that my comments were from a completely understandable previous viewpoint which changed long ago through debate, Mr Masters constant parading of those scans and my commenst are now rendered both irrelevant and futile.
I thought that meant.
My point changed because I was wrong a long time ago. Mr. Master pointed this out by posting many scans disputing my points. My viewpoints have been rendered irrelevant and futile..... oh... and 🙂
Originally posted by grey fox
You do realise were ...kinda open right now.
open? what do you mean?
Grey Fox:
No , i don't mean to sound like an ass but you DID have an entire group under your control dude.....
For which I said:
No I didn't... the Moment I got control everyone decided to be damn pansies because they didn't get voted or make leader... that's the REAL reason we disbanded.... people were being dumb F*cks! The Fact of the matter was that I would have made a GREAT leader but the moment I tried to introduce some change (good or bad) everyone jumped down my back (okay, not everyone).I was the person who BROUGHT UP the vote and change in leadership. Everyone had my back with it until the results came in... THAT was when people started saying bullshit like "Things are Changing, and I don't like it"
Funny how they thought there were problems but THEY STILL F'UCKING VOTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I found that HIGHLY amusing..
Partially got that off my chest 😄 (Partially 😠 )
For which YOU said:
I have no problem with you genis , but i have noticed that (much like the incredible Hulk and Ranma Saotome ) you leave a trail of destruction and chaos behind you. And as fun as that is it's not very productive in a group styling.Mano-e-mano though it's cool as hell
I take that as a "You can never join" sort of thing 🙁
