Parallax vs. Dark Phoenix

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
1) Not the only one who thinks so. Yeah a majority may side with Parallax, but that doesnt necessarily mean theyre right. If the most popular opinion was always the correct one then Wolverine can beat Lobo, Storm can beat Wonder Woman. 🙄

2) Says the victim who sides with any and everyone who oppose me cos i shattered his delusions about how great Juggernaut is 😂

3) I have indeed. You just choose to ignore said instances because painting me as some deluded, irrational fanboy makes it a lot easier for you to discount the multitude of spaniings ive delivered to your oaf of a person 😱

Originally posted by Kutulu
^^ Quoted for Truth. GS was clearly shown a scan which stated that the stars were going out, and yet somehow manages to deny it, even though the proof is right there, for everybody to see. It clearly states that Galactus was draining the life force of the Phoenix itself. It also pretty clearly states that he was trying to separate the force from the host, but that was not working. I don't know how much more obvious it can be.

doh

Galactus said all he was going to do was separate the two. AFTER the stars start fading Roma doesnt berate Galactus for killing the Force or wiping it out of existence, but instead for separating the two.

She claims they are bonded as per the natural order adn she warns him to violate it at his peril.

The stars fading isnt conclusive evidence of Mr Masters claism. Its an assumption of his.

Given that

a) Galactus said his machine was just going to separate the two

b) AFTER the stars fade Roma just berates for the separation

c) The Force is shown emanating from Rachel in line with Galactus and Romas words

d)NOWHERE on panel, be it statement or artistic depiction is Mr Masters interpretation verified

Mr Masters interpretation conclusively cannot be paraded around as fact. It has NO on panel support whilst mine has it in spades.

Good day to you. 😎

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
I almost feel sorry fo you. 🙁

Had those sentiments for you many many months ago. Feel them even more so with your every post. 🙁

No debating from you.

You live to just cup balls and criticize my arguments without actually countering my points.

Born loser. 😮

Thats a heavy burden my friend. 🙁

Hope you have support in these forum friends. 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Had those sentiments for you many many months ago. Feel them even more so with your every post. 🙁

No debating from you.

You live to just cup balls and criticize my arguments without actually countering my points.

Born loser. 😮

Thats a heavy burden my friend. 🙁

Hope you have support in these forum friends. 🙂

Yes I'm a loser and you are not a fanboy, though you have admited that nothing can destroy your favorite character. Grow up.🙂

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Yes I'm a loser and you are not a fanboy, though you have admited that nothing can destroy your favorite character. Grow up.🙂

Just displaying your ignorance. Phoenixes indestructibility is canon. Im telling you what is officially the case thats all. 🙂

Ive posted scans of it being stated and even a moderately well versed comic fan knows that Phoenix can never be destroyed and that it can just reform after the destruction of its physical body. 🙂

Yet you'd ignore all of that to paint me as a fanboy. Something youre forced to do to detract from your own inadequacies as a debator. 🙁

Tough break kid. 😎

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Just displaying your ignorance. Phoenixes indestructibility is canon. Im telling you what is officially the case thats all. 🙂

Ive posted scans of it being stated and even a moderately well versed comic fan knows that Phoenix can never be destroyed and that it can just reform after the destruction of its physical body. 🙂

Yet you'd ignore all of that to paint me as a fanboy. Something youre forced to do to detract from your own inadequacies as a debator. 🙁

Tough break kid. 😎

Edit: You have never proven that she can't be destroyed.
Anyway i'm not gonna argue with a guy who posted scans about Lt bowing before Stranger and said

"I forgot to mention how Xmen Forever clearly depicts how one wielding the phoenix power becomes supreme over creation. With enough power to humble LT even"

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Oh sure yeah she is indestructible because it is mentioned in her biography wait then Juggernaut is also indestructible also?......No he is not.Just because it is mentioned in his biography that he or she is "indestructible" it doesn't mean that he or she can't be killed.

Its a combination of being mentioned in her bio, on panel and actually being demonstrated on panel.

Phoenix has survived the multiversal destruction unleashed by the M'kraan crystal. Phoenix has been blown to bits, shattered across creation and survived. It has had its essence split into fully functioning individual parts and yet it can still come together and form unhindered. Its manifestation has been channeled by an extra terrestrial vessel adn used to power its systems and the Force just reformed and carried on with its business at the end of it.

Its a combination of on panel accounts, demonstrations and official verification in the form of handbooks and Marvels online site that makes it canon and the case for debates here.

Jugg has been deemed indestructible and yet that point has been contradicted on panel. Same with adamantium, Hulk and even Eternity. THAT is the difference.

Lesson over. 🙂

Time for recess. 😱

Anyway I'm not gonna argue with a guy who posted scans about Lt bowing before Stranger and said

"I forgot to mention how X-Men Forever clearly depicts how one wielding the phoenix power becomes supreme over creation. With enough power to humble LT even"

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Exactly. It could be that its working on behalf of the supreme being. However that is something thats suggested so its not canon. But either way Phoenix gives you powerenough to humble LT as stated on panel so that part isnt debatable.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Anyway I'm not gonna argue with a guy who posted scans about Lt bowing before Stranger and said

"I forgot to mention how X-Men Forever clearly depicts how one wielding the phoenix power becomes supreme over creation. With enough power to humble LT even"

Precsiely what i expected and a perfect illustration of why you can never be considered a credible or objective debator. Instead of replying to what ive said with either an on topic counter or a mature i concede, having been left stumped you come at me with an attack on my credibility 😬

My opinion was completely understandable and completely arguable as Phoenix fuels the process which X-men Forever stated and depicted saw the replacement of LT. With your fabricated story of my doctoring of scans discounted by someone around at the time and with that opinion of mine being completely understandable, once again another flop attempt. 👇

How very tiresome this is becoming 🙂

i dont like to interupt but.......
what is a sock? and i am called one by Mr Master?
Mr Master you think i am G.S is that it?(thats what someone told me,a sock account is when a member makes another account)) well i will take that as a compliment thank you,is it because when i first came to these boards you had this lie about ion and parralax you wanted people to believe that parralax's feats were ions,and your explanation was "they have the same powers or got the same power" whatever ?so you insulted me and thats when i started to notice you
ever since you have been caught in lie after lie(or as you say mistake or typo or oops)
it is true about you spamming the threads with nonsense about you hiding,about you lying=all true
anyway i am not a sock account let the moderators do their job,its hard enough with fools like you
Dark phoenix wins
parralax runs out of energy phoenix consumes him

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Precsiely what i expected and a perfect illustration of why you can never be considered a credible or objective debator. Instead of replying to what ive said with either an on topic counter or a mature i concede, having been left stumped you come at me with an attack on my credibility 😬

My opinion was completely understandable and completely arguable as Phoenix fuels the process which X-men Forever stated and depicted saw the replacement of LT. With your fabricated story of my doctoring of scans discounted by someone around at the time and with that opinion of mine being completely understandable, once again another flop attempt. 👇

How very tiresome this is becoming 🙂

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Again you say I'm not credible 🙂 well I don't say bullshit like nothing can destroy the Phoenix force or who posses the power of the Phoenix Force can humble LT. They said humanity will evolve into abstracts.Oh I ve got it so even now I'm the idiot because I bring up your bullshit which you say was completly understandble.
the replacement of LT?I only thought that humanity would become Etenity never mind I must be wrong again.
If Phoenix is so indestructible then how could this happen?
Phoenix life sucked out
http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=phoenixownedag9.jpg

If Phoenix has been shown surviving multiversal destruction and has been shown day to day being blown to bits, used as fuel only to reform afterwards like it was nothing then those on panel instances plus the official verification from Marvel in their handbooks and their websites makes it canon. Whether you like that or not is of little relevance to me. However accept it because thats what canon dictates. Me relaying to what is canon does not make me a fanboy because you dont like the idea im presenting. If anything that just illustrates your bias and your inability to be objective in debate 👇

Humanity were the ones the abstracts were replaced with however it was the Phoenix power that fuelled this process. Understand now kid? With that in mind my interpretation was understandable.

That pic is a picture of the Phoenix avatar. The firebird which is just a manifestation of the Force, not the entire force.

It was absorbed and used for the ships systems and look what happened:

The firebird just reformed. 😉

Read and comprehend the subject before trying to debate about it. 😬

Originally posted by starlock
i dont like to interupt but.......
what is a sock? and i am called one by Mr Master?
Mr Master you think i am G.S is that it?(thats what someone told me,a sock account is when a member makes another account)) well i will take that as a compliment thank you,is it because when i first came to these boards you had this lie about ion and parralax you wanted people to believe that parralax's feats were ions,and your explanation was "they have the same powers or got the same power" whatever ?so you insulted me and thats when i started to notice you
ever since you have been caught in lie after lie(or as you say mistake or typo or oops)
it is true about you spamming the threads with nonsense about you hiding,about you lying=all true
anyway i am not a sock account let the moderators do their job,its hard enough with fools like you
Dark phoenix wins
parralax runs out of energy phoenix consumes him

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If Phoenix has been shown surviving multiversal destruction and has been shown day to day being blown to bits, used as fuel only to reform afterwards like it was nothing then those on panel instances plus the official verification from Marvel in their handbooks and their websites makes it canon. Whether you like that or not is of little relevance to me. However accept it because thats what canon dictates. Me relaying to what is canon does not make me a fanboy because you dont like the idea im presenting. If anything that just illustrates your bias and your inability to be objective in debate 👇

Humanity were the ones the abstracts were replaced with however it was the Phoenix power that fuelled this process. Understand now kid? With that in mind my interpretation was understandable.

That pic is a picture of the Phoenix avatar. The firebird which is just a manifestation of the Force, not the entire force.

It was absorbed and used for the ships systems and look what happened:

The firebird just reformed. 😉

Read and comprehend the subject before trying to debate about it. 😬

Phoenix

Originally posted by starlock
i dont like to interupt but.......
what is a sock? and i am called one by Mr Master?
Mr Master you think i am G.S is that it?(thats what someone told me,a sock account is when a member makes another account)) well i will take that as a compliment thank you,is it because when i first came to these boards you had this lie about ion and parralax you wanted people to believe that parralax's feats were ions,and your explanation was "they have the same powers or got the same power" whatever ?so you insulted me and thats when i started to notice you
ever since you have been caught in lie after lie(or as you say mistake or typo or oops)
it is true about you spamming the threads with nonsense about you hiding,about you lying=all true
anyway i am not a sock account let the moderators do their job,its hard enough with fools like you
Dark phoenix wins
parralax runs out of energy phoenix consumes him

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Not really I only said that Ion can do the same things Parallax did since he had Parallax's power Oblivion's powers and the power of the central battery.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Stranger also needed the other mutants aswell to the process nice try.

Phoenix was the one that made Strangers plans possible in the first place. The mutants came in AFTER Phoenix had got involved and he planned to use the mutants to take advantage of the process, to bend it to his will.

Without Phoenix.......

The process would never occur.

Once again, know your stuff or butt out! 😱

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix was the one that made Strangers plans possible in the first place. The mutants came in AFTER Phoenix had got involved and he planned to use the mutants to take advantage of the process, to bend it to his will.

Without Phoenix.......

The process would never occur.

Once again, know your stuff or butt out! 😱

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Stranger also needed the other mutants aswell to the process nice try.

You said if Phoenix is so indestructible how come its life was getting sucked out?

I showed you that despite that what makes Phoenix so indestructible is that that can happen and it can just reform afterwards like it was nothing. Its indestructible mutable life force, it can be used, channeled and abused and yet it will shrug that off and reform.

Why cant you ever be a mature objective debator and at least say ok you've got me on that point? 😕

Instead you act like an overgrown kid. "Yeah so what but Ph3nix c@nt do this, Phoenix got p3wned there...... sp_ike 🙄

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
That still doesn't change the fact that Stranger needed them. 😉

Silly boy. It changes everything. 😄

Strangers plans were made possible by Phoenixes involvement. Phoenix is that which fuels the process that sees the abstracts replaced. Stranger sought to take advantage of the process via the mutants and twist it to his own needs, however without the Phoenix it wouldnt happen. 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Instead you act like an overgrown kid. "Yeah so what but Ph3nix c@nt do this, Phoenix got p3wned there...... sp_ike 🙄

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

In a versus match up where Jean will be out to kill her opponent at all costs, she will not die. Nothing can make her die.