Nightcrawler vs. Wolverine

Started by Piedmon14 pages

Which makes this fight sort of like an old Samurai duel: either way, it's over really fast.

yeppo, I said that a while ago, pleasure arguing with you.

Piedmon, you make some decent points, but Xmarks has made much better points more frequently. I first want to say that there is no offense to you at all because you are just supporting your choice. Believe me, I understand how increased muscle mass makes you faster, I know. I've been playing baseball for about 12 years now, so I know what it takes to go faster. I'm the second fastest guy on the team and I have strong, muscular legs. But when you say that Wolvie is faster than NC, then you're just plain uninformed. NC has been shown countless times to have superior SPEED and REFLEXES over Wolverine and many of his other teammates. And that's just without his teleportation.

No offense again, but I think you're giving Wolvie just a bit too much credit. I, too, have seen the scenes you speak of when he moves that fast. But what you're saying is that Wolvie has the ability to hit an opponent INSTANTANEOUSLY. As neat as that would be, he does not move that fast. He moves pretty freakin fast (Proof from some of the comics), but not light-speed basically. So let's just say, just for the sake of argument, that NC can teleport rapidly every .5 seconds. In my long life time of being a hardcore X-men fan, I've never seen Wolvie move so fast. But never enough for him to get anywhere near a hold on a rapidly teleporting NC. Even if he wasn't RAPIDLY teleporting, the complete randomness of the port would be enough to throw Wolvie off. He wouldn't be able to react in time before he was struck by NC, who begins attacks while he's in the alternate dimension that he teleports to. That's why he's able to take out a room full of henchmen in almost one fluid motion, already knocking out the last guy before the first one hits the ground. Even Wolvie can't do that.

Another thing. NC is unbelievably acrobatic through training yes, but most of this does come from his mutant ability. Just because of the way he was born is why he is able to perform such feats. NC also has those nimble, prehinsile hands, feet, and tail in which to attack or just make contact with Wolvie so NC can teleport him away somewhere.

I don't think it to be easy at all, but I do think that Kurt has what it takes to be Logan if he really wanted to. And like stated above, he would not hold back if it were self-defense.

Ja.

Also, as far as I have seen Kurt go distance-wise via teleportation is 3 miles in one jump. This was in Uncanny, pretty accurate if you ask me.

But if you read Ultimate X-men, he is able to teleport up to the height of an airplane, but doesn't because he is exhausted from earlier ports. And that's about 6 or so miles straight up. And I think if he really concentrated on it and was completely rested up, he could do it. Especially if he had no other distractions. I think he could do it.

But normally when he is trying to cover distance quickly, he can often make 3 mile jumps. So, if he can do that, he can easily port up 2 miles in the air with Wolvie and port back before he gains much momentum at all.

Everyone seems to think that as soon as he's that high, that he's gained terminal velocity. If NC were up there for less than a second, he would gain very little velocity, something he could VERY EASILY overcome anyway after being an acrobat for so long.

I'll even give you an analogy. When you throw a ball in the air, once it reaches its peak height, it slows, then stops, then GRADUALLY gains speed coming back down. If you were to catch it just two inches after it starts to fall again, it wouldn't be moving very fast at all. If you wait for it to fall, then yes, it would be moving much faster. But once you stop its fall near the peak, there will be very little momentum behind the fall.

After teleporting back from the sky, Kurt would land back on the ground in a very graceful position, utilizing his acrobatic skills to cushion his landing like it were nothing. Think about it.

Thanx for pieceing my various arguments together. Also got to add if the fight is in an enclosed space then random ports could generate enough pungent brimstone to cause Wolvie's heightened sense of smell to just be oversaturated and to cloud his vision. If I recall correctly Wolvie hates losing access to his enhanced senses.

Thats a lot of typing you do for people who sometimes act like they don't read those great posts.

Haha, I do what I can. ::Bows:: 🤘

id say night,i was just thinking that metalman. your teleportation theory is a good one.

Originally posted by havok90
id say night,i was just thinking that metalman. your teleportation theory is a good one.

Why thank you.

but watch out for the fanboys who will say wolvie can take a 3 mile fall.lol

Nightcrawler's got this one easy I mean come on Wolverine would get his a$$ kicked, Nightcrawler can be an untouchable combantant

Hasn't Wolverine shown to be able to detect Nightcrawler 😐

Kurt should cause Logan no trouble here.

Yes, teleporting wolverine three miles into the air and teleporting back to the ground would work. Probably.

However, as Grimm pointed out, Wolverine has been shown to detect where Nightcrawler will appear, before he appears. Nightcrawler will be stabbed before he even knows where he is again. :-/.

Originally posted by havok90
but watch out for the fanboys who will say wolvie can take a 3 mile fall.lol

He probably can. Am I a fanboy now ??

Originally posted by who?-kid
He probably can. Am I a fanboy now ??

I agree with you there no reason he can't his momentum would not even be that bad, hulk punch is a lot harder then that

Originally posted by Soljer

However, as Grimm pointed out, Wolverine has been shown to detect where Nightcrawler will appear, before he appears. Nightcrawler will be stabbed before he even knows where he is again. :-/.

I agree

Originally posted by capt it up
I agree with you there no reason he can't his momentum would not even be that bad, hulk punch is a lot harder then that
😕 Umm.. by my calc he'd be travelling at around 685 mph when he impacts...

Wolverine made short work of the elf in House of M.

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
Wolverine made short work of the elf in House of M.

No, he didn't, Hawkeye did 😕

I'm inclined to say Nightcrawler wins if Kurt gets his sword, otherwise its 50/50 IMO 🙂

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
😕 Umm.. by my calc he'd be travelling at around 685 mph when he impacts...

thats still a hell of a lot weaker then hulks punches. I am not even sure falling from that hieght would be 685 mph. after a certain hieght the speed of the fall can't get any faster