Nightcrawler vs. Wolverine

Started by CorderaMitchell14 pages

People go by the weight it takes to move the body, but its really that musles that are stronger lose flexibility, and muscles that are stronger, move faster, factor in weight, and you'll see kurt has the perfect combo.

I doubt she is in any way superior to Wolverine, being as he's 100+ years old and she's about 15. Beyond that, though: in that situation, Kurt was already prepared and ready, and X-23 was certainly making it easy for him with that obvious attack.

X-23, at that point, had never encountered the X-Men before, and therefore couldn't have known what Nightcrawler was going to do. Wolverine, on the other hand, ought to have a very good idea of what Nightcrawler's abilities are. They've been working closely together for years, afterall.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
People go by the weight it takes to move the body, but its really that musles that are stronger lose flexibility, and muscles that are stronger, move faster, factor in weight, and you'll see kurt has the perfect combo.

So by your own logic, flexibility does not equal speed. Kurt may be more flexible, but that in itself makes him no quicker then the bulkier Logan.

Of course, muscles that are more flexible will lose strength: ergo, in the real world, that ultra-flexible spine of Kurt's would give him a strength disadvantage, much like the fast but brittle Cheetahs of the Savannah. But that's not how it works: a guy who does Kurt's feats of acrobatism must have incredible strength in his back, legs, etc.

Likewhise, it may not pass that having an ultra-heavy skeleton would grant you excessive strength and speed in the real world, but that's how it goes in the comics. You're certainly not going to allow Nightcrawler his own conceits and deny Logan his, right?

Yes but its a teleport for a reason, quicksilver would be able to hit logan easily, even more so kurt.

Could you rephrase that, please? I don't take your meaning.

This is quite fast too:

I believe that he is faster then Logan.

But what if he ports around Logan to mess up his senses? mean, he port really fast...

Sorry rush typing.lol

I'm saying that if quicksilver could easily hit (not necessarily defeate) wolverine, than kurt should do better with random teleportation, he has the maneuverabilty advantage in both aspects, so It'd only make sense that he should be able to hit him, the know much of the other.

Of course, if it's Kurt's objective to simply pummel Logan, he can do so at near will. Fat load of good it would do him, though: if he keeps his guard up, Wolverine is quick enough to prevent Kurt from reaching under his jaw/over his collar bone, under his arms or any other vital regions, meaning Kurt has to attack the hard parts of Logan like his chest, flanks, arms, face. Those are the adamantium parts Kurt will just break his hands and feet on.

I understand, but he has a chance of grabbing at least once, no?

He could grab Logan's arm any old time. The hard part is not getting sliced for his troubles. I'm not saying Kurt couldn't do it, but it would take expert timing and a certain degree of luck.

Well, it would go like this:

*BAMF* Grab *BAMF* Let go two miles up in the air *BAMF*

I don't think it would take more then 3 secs...

As far as "speed," goes:

I'd agree Nightcrawler has quicker reflexes and better coordination.

But, if you put Wolverine and Nightcrawler at the end of a track and had them dash 100 meters, I think Wolverine would reach the other end first.

Maybe.

But this is not an race.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Well, it would go like this:

*BAMF* Grab *BAMF* Let go two miles up in the air *BAMF*

I don't think it would take more then 3 secs...

I seriously doubt he has that kind of range. The best he might do is 1/2 a mile up in the air: still enough to kill Wolverine, if he tried that tactic. The problem is, even if it just takes him .5 seconds to hover in the air and teleport back, he's already falling, and that kinetic energy stays with him when he teleports back to the ground (so he winds up just as flat.)

Originally posted by Piedmon
He could grab Logan's arm any old time. The hard part is not getting sliced for his troubles. I'm not saying Kurt couldn't do it, but it would take expert timing and a certain degree of luck.

once they warp its over...

Not quite as flat, as he doesn't reach terminal velocity, but I'd imagine we're looking at some ugly damage there (unless that spine of his is actually made of elastic.)

Originally posted by Piedmon
I seriously doubt he has that kind of range. The best he might do is 1/2 a mile up in the air: still enough to kill Wolverine, if he tried that tactic. The problem is, even if it just takes him .5 seconds to hover in the air and teleport back, he's already falling, and that kinetic energy stays with him when he teleports back to the ground (so he winds up just as flat.)

Its 2 miles last i heard, which isn't far, except in the air.

1/2 mile or two makes no difference. I say that eight times out of ten, Nightcrawler tries to grab Wolverine and gets shanked. So Wolverine 8/10.

If he lands with his feet on logans neck, like a scissors hold, but from above, he can definitely do it, logan should have a harder time hitting, nightcrawler, than otherwise, if logan gets a good swipe, ( not the legs in the hold I mentioned.) thats his only victory, both are one trick pony types, if ya knwo what I mean.