Master Chief vs Samus Aran

Originally posted by Runing_Assailnt
dark has a point guys...since when did you see the bounty hunter shoot someone in the head from afar?
i think the MC is more hardcore. I mean, he's a man. Samus is a woman. 'nuff said. Sorry for being a sexist. At least women are good for something.

and... what exactly is the point of shooting someone in the head with a plasma cannon? especially when you can just charge it and melt thier entire body...
being a man isnt what makes the world turn (sorry to pull the rug out from under you) , there is a such thing called amazonian society where females do all the fighting and men stay home and cook. Not that that has anything to do with samus, but since you brought it up...

Samus does have other weapons that can hit from a far distance and follow their target take the Missles, Super Missles, and the Wave Beam those weapons follow whatever target Samus just so happens to be locked on to. So with that in mind all she really has to do is lock on to MC shoot her Wave beam (which is electrical might I add) hit MC shut down his electrical components and just blast the crap out of him with Missles or Super Missles. The other thing she could do is basically the same thing but instead of using missles she could use the Dark Beam and just corrupt his mind. 😄 😛

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
and... what exactly is the point of shooting someone in the head with a plasma cannon? especially when you can just charge it and melt thier entire body...
being a man isnt what makes the world turn (sorry to pull the rug out from under you) , there is a such thing called amazonian society where females do all the fighting and men stay home and cook. Not that that has anything to do with samus, but since you brought it up...

Amazonian societies are nothing more than a myth, and there were no men in such societies.

YES, women warriors could be found back in that day in age, but a man would stomp a mud hole in a woman just as easily then as they would do now.

Okay, I think I liked this better when I was alone defending my position...

Dark, we've already been through several points you have dredged back up.

Quite early on, both sides of the debate decided that books, comics, and materials other than what was included in the games were null and void. Meaning IRRELEVANT.

I myself countered your Cortana argument with the fact that Samus can reboot her suit to wipe out viruses, which takes about five seconds.

I STILL have no real information on what the "Active Camo" actually is, but Samus' thermal visor (heat-sensing), X-ray visor (firing particles and interpreting what absorbed them), and the Echoes visor (firing high-resonance "pings" outward in a radius, and interpreting how long the sound takes to bounce back), I doubt that this "active camo" would make an effective shield, 'else it would be toeing the line of god-modding.

Missiles, Super Missiles, the WaveBuster, and the Annihilator beam all home in on targets, and the Wave and Annihilator beams don't need lock-on to do it.

You've said that Samus can't set explosives because she lacks a right hand during missions. But what else can you call the Morph Ball Bombs and Power Bombs?

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Amazonian societies are nothing more than a myth, and there were no men in such societies.

YES, women warriors could be found back in that day in age, but a man would stomp a mud hole in a woman just as easily then as they would do now.

I disagree with that last part of your statement linkalicious. I happen to know a few women who could stomp a mud hole in you and make you look like a woman. As for Amazonian societies being a myth it is said to be true that the Aztec Indians had women fighters. maybe you should look into that. The correct termanology for such societies that sat was talking about were actually called Matriarchal Societies.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Amazonian societies are nothing more than a myth, and there were no men in such societies.

YES, women warriors could be found back in that day in age, but a man would stomp a mud hole in a woman just as easily then as they would do now.

Matriarchal societies DID exist, Linkalicious. Some Incan groups, which were given the title of the Greek-myth Amazons by Spanish explorers, were leaders in hunting, religion, and everyday life. These women considered (and I say this in all seriousness) all men to be simply "tools for procreation."

I am just going to add a little bit to what general just said. Some villages in South America are still run by women and the men are definately not the dominant ones. Anyway back to the match up. 🙄

by the way general thank you for reminding me about the Annihilator Beam and Echo Visor I had forgotten about those.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Amazonian societies are nothing more than a myth, and there were no men in such societies.

YES, women warriors could be found back in that day in age, but a man would stomp a mud hole in a woman just as easily then as they would do now.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Okay, I think I liked this better when I was alone defending my position...

Dark, we've already been through several points you have dredged back up.

Quite early on, both sides of the debate decided that books, comics, and materials other than what was included in the games were null and void. Meaning IRRELEVANT.

I myself countered your Cortana argument with the fact that Samus can reboot her suit to wipe out viruses, which takes about five seconds.

I STILL have no real information on what the "Active Camo" actually is, but Samus' thermal visor (heat-sensing), X-ray visor (firing particles and interpreting what absorbed them), and the Echoes visor (firing high-resonance "pings" outward in a radius, and interpreting how long the sound takes to bounce back), I doubt that this "active camo" would make an effective shield, 'else it would be toeing the line of god-modding.

Missiles, Super Missiles, the WaveBuster, and the Annihilator beam all home in on targets, and the Wave and Annihilator beams don't need lock-on to do it.

You've said that Samus can't set explosives because she lacks a right hand during missions. But what else can you call the Morph Ball Bombs and Power Bombs?

I think he means thermo-optic camoflauge. Hence the the thermal part... heat, heat concealing... etc, etc. Cortana could be just as effective without virusing Samus' suit. Mjolnir armor is built abosorb everything, I'nm fairly sure it could take elictracally based attacks, at elast for a little while.

Originally posted by Armotech
I am just going to add a little bit to what general just said. Some villages in South America are still run by women and the men are definately not the dominant ones. Anyway back to the match up. 🙄

No offense...

But what the hell does this have to do with things based on to armored hulks duking it out!?

Because some think that women can't kick men's asses.

Originally posted by Dogbert
I think he means thermo-optic camoflauge. Hence the the thermal part... heat, heat concealing... etc, etc. Cortana could be just as effective without virusing Samus' suit. Mjolnir armor is built abosorb everything, I'nm fairly sure it could take elictracally based attacks, at elast for a little while.

So thermal visor is out. Go X-ray and echo visor!

Cortana could be as effective without a virus? Could you be so reasonable as to give an example?

And if you can say Mjollnir armor is built to absorb "everything," then I can in very good reason say that Samus' fully-powered suit is built to absorb "everything." Few electrically powered systems can take an overloading shock for very long.

Originally posted by Dogbert
I think he means thermo-optic camoflauge. Hence the the thermal part... heat, heat concealing... etc, etc. Cortana could be just as effective without virusing Samus' suit. Mjolnir armor is built abosorb everything, I'nm fairly sure it could take elictracally based attacks, at elast for a little while. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
No offense...
But what the hell does this have to do with things based on to armored hulks duking it out!?

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Because some think that women can't kick men's asses.

So thermal visor is out. Go X-ray and echo visor!

Cortana could be as effective without a virus? Could you be so reasonable as to give an example?

And if you can say Mjollnir armor is built to absorb "everything," then I can in very good reason say that Samus' fully-powered suit is built to absorb "everything." Few electrically powered systems can take an overloading shock for very long.

Cortana is an Artificial Inteligence, and an Incredibly intelligent and sophisticated one at that. The tactical advice and data she could provide is invaluable. Not to mention, she can interface with things like say a defensive Robot on some distant battleground, and suddenly Master Chief and a heavily armed robot are fightiong Samus. Not to mention she can calculate things pretty fast, tap communication channels... you get the idea.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
Thermo optic camo?.. please dont lay BS on top of BS.. I've heard nowhere in the game mention that the camo was thermal.. (and if I happen to be wrong, facts would be nice)
and to touch down on the subject you have no idea of.. someone brought up how samus would lose just "because she's a woman", that a man would easily crush her and various adjectives and verbs which were backed up with no fact.. therefore, the sexist issue had to be stomped with the quaint reminder of "Matriarchal Society" Aka Amazonian women tribes of south america (and apparently also from elsewhere in various periods of history). These societies labeled women as the warriors and the bread bringers, while the men were merely a tool of procreation (as stated above). Sophitia (soul calibur, Soul calibur II) is a fine example of a female warrior amazon type.. as well as the Diablo 2 (of blizzard fame) Amazon etc etc.
(Legal Disclaimer : this wasnt aimed entirely at dogbert 😛 )

First of all, I think he meant see. Thermo-optic camoflauge wasn't in the game, he doesnt actually need it...

WTF? Techinically, Master Chief was crushing peoples throats before he had Mjolnir armor with punches. I'm sure he can physically crush Samus, at least if both didn't have their protective armors. However, jut because she's a woman is kind of sexist. What a ***** 😐

Amazon is however an unproven theory. There are facts to back it up, and facts to dissprove it. I ahve no actual opion on it...

Mjolnir armor withstands plasma burns. Plasma is Super-Heated Gas formed into a cohesive "Bolt" from energy, hence it in itself has energy htiting the Mjolnir armor. I once took two full "bursts unarmored from a plasma rifle in Halo 1, PC. Didnt do crap. Thats hundreds of little miniature things of energy hitting you. And it has never overloaded. Not to mention I'm sure an armor designed by some of the most brilliant scientists is designed to withstand every kind of attack.

I would like to touch base on the fact that you have been hit by plasma weapons before and they "Didn't do crap" as you say but then again those plasma blasts are just samll particles of energy were as Samus' plasma beam can be charged up into one big ass burst and is not necessarily made of just energy. I really find it hard to believe that anyone or anything could live through a fully charged up plasma beam shot from Samus

Originally posted by Dogbert
Not to mention I'm sure an armor designed by some of the most brilliant scientists is designed to withstand every kind of attack.

Fair point Satsujin. MC's armour and shield are fairly weak where as Samus' armour can take a hell of a lot of damage from all the energy capsules she uses. And on the subject of the camo MC gets well I don't remember it ever being explained if it hides you from sensors (that said you can't pick up camo'd elites with your radar so I'll hold my opinion until I know a little more).

Going on to this man woman thing...well I'll admit that men are genrally stronger than women but strength isn't everything skill comes into play and I think Samus may just have a little more due to longer combat time. Not sure if it's enough to make a difference though. And in the defence of women they can use their minds to a greater effect than men, concentrating on more than one task at a time. Don't know if it'll help but hey you never know right.

I still think Samus'll win but it'll be a hell of a fight.

How many enemies in any of Samus' games are actually killed by one single fully charrged blast???

It also didn't need to be upgraded. 😐 Just a better version.

Originally posted by Lord Ryugen
Fair point Satsujin. MC's armour and shield are fairly weak where as Samus' armour can take a hell of a lot of damage from all the energy capsules she uses. And on the subject of the camo MC gets well I don't remember it ever being explained if it hides you from sensors (that said you can't pick up camo'd elites with your radar so I'll hold my opinion until I know a little more).

Originally posted by Armotech
I disagree with that last part of your statement linkalicious. I happen to know a few women who could stomp a mud hole in you and make you look like a woman. As for Amazonian societies being a myth it is said to be true that the Aztec Indians had women fighters. maybe you should look into that. The correct termanology for such societies that sat was talking about were actually called Matriarchal Societies.

Congratulations...you know some she-beasts. I'm a small guy and i could kick the sh!t out of about 98% of the worlds female population...if not more. I'd hate to see what someone the size of Master Chief could do to one...

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
rofl a myth... go journey down south america and get brutally stabbed to death by amazons then... Im sure you can defend yourself since you're a big burly man..

wait....you're the one rolling on the floor laughing? If I go down to South America, there's like a .00001% chance of me ever finding 1 female who is part of a matriarchal society....let alone a whole tribe. Those societies have always been few and far between...and in modern times they are almost non-exsistant. The only thing I'll find in South America is some damn good cocaine. ROFL!!!!!!111!!

Originally posted by Armotech
I am just going to add a little bit to what general just said. Some villages in South America are still run by women and the men are definately not the dominant ones. Anyway back to the match up.

name one...