Originally posted by Zen2nd
Lucky I have both games and knows what powers she has. I was just wondering though, near the start of the way when she encounters the Space Pirates but (trying to remember) they didn't look like they had that much armour on them and I know it takes two rockets to take one of them out.Plus you mention bosses that would be very hard for MC to destroy but it is even stranger that there is a place for say a morph ball to fit along and plant a bomb to destroy this certain boss. mmmmm is it me or did the developers make it that way.
You're talking about the plant boss there. Yes it's true some bosses were made so that they could only be beaten by using a specific ability from the suit but in the end that only proves Samus' versitility beyond doubt.
Don't get me wrong I've always stated that I have the utmost respect for MC but he is as far as I can tell beyond his limits here. Samus has four beams constantly at her disposal, Power (standard) Wave (electrical) Ice (um..ice) and plasma (heat.) Stick her near some phazon and she's got the Phazon beam. Her armour is far more durable and this is FACT. MC's shield and armour cant take many hits, its been proven in game. One grenade can leave him at deaths door. Samus routinely dets about five missiles in her face from the air pirates. She has a higher degree of mobility with her ball transformations and incredible jumping power. She also carries well over a hundred concusive missiles which she can use in combination with her charge beams. I really can't see a way for MC to take this match.
no homing program is perfect, and Samus can use power bombs to destroy it.
And you think ickle bitty power bombs will destroy the might of a rocket.
Zen forgot to add two things that can't be stopped.
Dual Needlers. Dual charged plasma shot.
"YEAAAOOOOOOOW!"
Samus's reaction.
It doesn't work like that. When you shut down your computer, a second battery stays on to keep such autonomous things like the calendar and memory correct and up-to-date. Shutting down the second battery that keeps these running erases the virus (along with everything else).
Have you heard of those crazy/insane viruses that shut down all auxiliary power? I think that would be like, a market order errand for Cortana.
Well I can see your new to KMC. Vehicles have been covered slightly but yes, I honestly think that the CHief's arsenal of vehicles would greatly turn the tide. THink about a Ghost or a Warthog. Almost always available to the Chief and so common on playing fields. Samus would be Road Kill, or subject to plasma burns, eh?
cortana shouldnt even really be an issue.. does she 'always' go with chief? Im pretty sure she doesnt...
even if she got into samus' suit, its doubtful cortana would know the suits operating system in order to navigate her suit for main power sources. In my opinion including cortana is weak, cuz samus only has herself.
and lmao @ vehicles... if samus can roll into a ball and fit into a small tunnel.. getting 'run over' by a vehicle is not even a concern. plus halo2's vehicles are destructable. which makes them more a liability for chief than for samus.
This is an article I wrote on another forum about Samus Aran vs. Master Cheif
"I think it depend upon which situation the two would be facing each other in. If Master Cheif faced Samus in her weak state, which is one energy tank and the power beam, (the way she starts every game), Master Cheif would probably win about 65% of the time.
If Samus and Master Cheif were to go hand to hand with no battlesuits they would be evenly matched. Heres why: Samus is infused with Chozo blood, which makes her body and spirit very powerful. Samus also has a limited use of Ki abilities, which is the ability to use spiritual energy when attacking. Samus also can move just as fast as she can without her suit on. Master Cheif suit augments his speed, while Samus's increases her jumping ability and has super speed(which requires time to run first to activate)
If faced in a situation where Samus and Master Cheif would have to find a weapon to kill each other, Samus might lose. Master Cheif has the ability to use any weapon, Samus has only used arm cannon class weapons and power ball weapons. Samus's sheild is another issue, it would still be diffcult for the Cheif if Samus had a lot of sheild energy.
If faced in a spaceship to spaceship battle, Samus would have the advantage. Poor Master Cheif does not like flying in space and has not been trained to dogfight with spaceships. He "can" fly ships however and can pilot any ground vehicle. I've never seen Samus fight in her gunship, so I think Samus lacks experience fighting like that too. However, near the ground, Master Cheif would do well. I've never seen the capabilities of Samus's starship, so I'm no sure how it would fair against a Warthog or a Scorpion. Samus could still beat Master Cheif in a vehicle without one. Master Cheif would have to find someone to gun the Warthog for him and Samus is immune to being run over. In fact, a vehicle from Halo might just explode if it crashed into Samus's energy powered Chozo armor. When dealing with a Scorpion tank, Samus would roll into a ball and place a power bomb next to it.
Who's suit is better? Master Cheif's suit is durable and generates a rechargable sheild. It augments his strength, speed, reflexes, and his ability to make people like him. It also has a headset battle computer with a heads-up-display. Samus suit does all of those things plus can morph into a ball. Her suit also has multiple visors for varied uses. Oh yeah, and Samus's suit is entirly modular, which means it can keep getting more upgrades, and that includes updating it's whole desing, and she doesn't even have to take it off to do that.
As far as battle experience goes: Samus can scan an enemy and know every weakness an enemy and she alwaysis prepared to deal with any new threat. Master Cheif has been trained to use any weapon, but I've only seen him kill Covenant, Flood, and other Mjolnir Spartans. He has also only killed one Boss character. When Master Cheif first sees Samus, he may not even know what to do before he gets killed.
Escaping? Samus can roll into a ball. Master Cheif can hide and wait for his sheild to recharge. Neither one is more chicken.
Who would do better playing the other's game?
-Samus would have no acces to her usual upgrades, she would have to be searching among the Forerunner technology for something she could use. Samus would be telling the Marines to let her take care of things, I pretty sure she likes to work alone with no liable people wasting their lives. Energy recharge would be a problem when on the feild, Samus would have to return to her starship to recharge quite often(that is if she had it). Samus would not need Cortana's help, Samus has an automap computer, and the ability to scan and hack other computers. Figthing the enemies would be no problem for Samus at all. At the end of the game, Samus would actually show her face so that the player could see what she looks like.
-I'm pretty Master Cheif would not be able to beat the game. First he would have to figure out how to open a door(a plasma grenade might work, that is if he had one). There would be a lack of weapons that he could use. Poor Master Cheif would probably not be able to navigate most the game and not survive most of the environmental hazards like lava, acid, deep water, and the dark air-(if he was playing Metroid Prime 2). A lot of the enemies would be more agile and durable than him including the Bosses, which would probably crush him instantly. Master Cheif is intelligent, but not a genius, the puzzles in the game might be way too difficult for him to figure out. If he could beat the final boss, he would have to escape from being blown up with the planet or area, no problem, he has done that before.
I really don't think Samus Aran and Master Cheif would want to fight each other. If they ever meet, I don't think Master Cheif would be jelous at all. As for those pesk doors, Samus can open them for him. (yes, a lady opens the door for the guy) If they ever did fight, they would probably be arguing about whos game is better."
I like both character, but Master Cheif does not stand a chance.
lol.
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now I just want to get one thing strait. I am not just some idiotic X-box fanboy. I've had a nintendo system infront of me since I was 5. I understand samus is cool, and she kicks arse, but the only reason most my comments have been for the chief is simply for one reason.
He kicks ass and looks way cooler while doing it.
in the video game world, looks are everything.
Samus only looks cool when she gets the light and dark suit(and the fusion suit).
when chief enters a room of badies, he goes guns blazing, taking cover, throwing grenades, strafing, and his weapons have high knockback.
when samus enters a room it is more of a shoot enemy A till it dies with apropriate beam weapon, use correct visor. the enemy's don't take much actualy damage to themselves unless you count icebeam. when you shoot them, they don't get knocked back.
they just take damage, and maybe pause.
Robo-Chocobo, looks are personal opinion. Something that is cool has to be cool to a person. In your eyes, Master Cheif is cooler, but that doesn't mean that cooler makes him more powerful, just more attractive.
Lord Ryugen, since I'm a fan of Metroid, I've also been trying to figure out the signifcance of the ship except for Samus to escape a planet when it blows up.
Can someone tell me where to find the giant soccerbal in Halo 2?
Originally posted by Robo-Chocobo
Samus only looks cool when she gets the light and dark suit(and the fusion suit).when samus enters a room it is more of a shoot enemy A till it dies with apropriate beam weapon, use correct visor. the enemy's don't take much actualy damage to themselves unless you count icebeam. when you shoot them, they don't get knocked back.
they just take damage, and maybe pause.
That's a matter of opinion. I, personally, think her signature Varia suit looks very cool. And I prefer the Phazon Suit over the Light Suit, actually.
And as for the second part, that depends on your abilities. late enough in Prime, I'd Power Bomb them all. Late enough in Echoes, I'd use the Screw Attack. 😈
And Samus' GUNship IS armed. I don't remember where it says it, (I think its in the Super Metroid manual) but her guship is equipped with a much stronger version of the Power Beam (think super missiles out of two barrels) and rechargeable missiles.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
Yeah, the vehicle argument is a bit weak. Even a normal, unaided human can throw themselves out of the way of a moving vehicle. How much easier would it be for Samus, with her space jump boots and leg servos?
well sorry mate, we're not exactly veteran forum writers if you can tell, ay. Spitting plasma or armor piercing projectiles isn't exactly weak, but hey we'll leave the real arguing to the experts. Pertaining to saying that Cortana couldn't crack Samus' suit, thats ridiculous. You seriously don't know computers, you think every hacker uses the same OS as the victim?
cortana's hacking ability is only pre-programmed parameters. Samus' suit would be very new technology for her to come across and Im sure theres no obscurely labeled network for her to traverse either, as the suit doesnt rely on a system of operations to function. Its merely an augmentation unto samus. The only reason cortana can hack covenant is because of their constant intermingling with eachother to allow the earth forces to learn how their networking encryptions work.