Originally posted by moneypennyI hear you there. I'm off to bed, goodnight. It was nice chatting with you. I'm glad we communicated without name calling, power tripping, and references to ignorance, not that either of us were ignorant in our posts. Take care. 🙂
Closed Circuit Television. I can't put my "profound" views of this war on the forum as they'll ban me.
>>>QUOTE: "Here's an idea that seems to be popular round here. Anyone who didn't lose anyone they knew in 9-11 has to STFU about it. Anyone who's never spent time in a conflict zone needs to STFU about the subject."
please, check my location, get an atlas, and recognise. but thats doesnt matter anyway. you are a complete and total prick to gloat over 9/11 as with any other mass murder.
i don't believe that american lives our worth more, but i would NEVER have the audacity to imply that they DESERVE TO DIE, as you did, the same way that i would never imply this to the people of iraq.
you claim that most people here are idiot, yet you present a contorted arguement filled to the rim with fallicies.
>>>QUOTE:"American soldiers are the best in the world, anyone & everyone they kill is guilty, and god help you all for wondering why the East hates you enough to kill you in cold blood as you stare out your skyscraper windows."
known as "straw man tactics" you try to twist mine and others' words to say something else, in a sad attempt to lump me and others here into a chategory of mindless patriotic sheep...and if thats not enough, you gloat over mass murder.
>>>QUOTE: "So - we are all clear? I don’t hate americans, I don’t think ALL US forces are undisciplined thugs. I think that some of the troops (from all the "coalition" states) are amoral."
backpeddling indeed. but i guess you are allowed to spew whatever hateful excrament you wish and then go on as if you never said it, whereas i am not even allowed to take an unclear comment back and clarify myself.
>>>QUOTE: You allow war crimes to go uninvestigated & unpunished you not only become the thing you fight - you give your enemy the ammunition to paint you as evil. You doom a new generation to grow up hating Americans. The exact thing that caused 9-11 in the first place, that’s my point: NEXT time (and its coming) you wont be able to say "why do they hate us so much?"
ME? WHO? like i said, strawman tactics. if i dont hate each and every soldier, than i must be a blind patriot who would respond to any and every act of atrocity commited by an american with "they had it coming"
sad
VPL: its quite plain that you dont read my posts, or if you do you dont understand them. I will repeat the points that relate DIRECTLY to you to make it easy.
Read the second post in this thread, its mine. It says The obvious and only answer to this question is "No they are not." (all thugs) SOME of them are, but thats true of all armies. - That’s not backpedaling. I was in here saying this threads subject was BS around an hour after it was posted. Explain how I'm backpedaling ?
You can bleat about straw all you like, fact remains the only part of this thread that is directed at you is where I asked you a specific question - time and again. I'll ask it again here: You said "again, to all those armchair soldiers, please stfu" - I'm asking you why exactly do you think I have no right to my opinion about the reported instances of war crimes being committed by troops is the US army? I'm not even arguing that I have a RIGHT to ask them..I only want to know why you think I have NO RIGHT to vice my opinion. I'm asking you to explain your statement. Is that too hard?
As to 9-11; Please demonstrate the gloating and me saying Americans deserved to die? I honestly cant see where even you could come up with that from what I said (remember, what I said, not what you assumed I meant or was implying in your fevered imagination..what I said. Ask me to explain or justify what I said and I will… unlike you who prefers to ignore such a request over and over.)
Here.. the easy reader version for you since you now have 2 whole questions to ignore and I can see that being taxing for you.
A) I want to know why you think I have NO RIGHT to vice my opinion?
B) Please point out where I gloat about 9-11 and say people deserved to die? Dictionary . Com will tell you the definition of the word gloat if you need to look it up.
Originally posted by PVS
that doest justify the acts of certain soldiers.
american soldiers can't lower themselves to the standards of terrorists.
America supports terror too. Let's be fair. It's all about what looks best at the time and how it advances the goal of the administration. We don't have thousands of troops trained for covert operations and sabotage for nothing.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
America supports terror too. Let's be fair. It's all about what looks best at the time and how it advances the goal of the administration. We don't have thousands of troops trained for covert operations and sabotage for nothing.
terrorism and covert ops are not one and the same.
shit, i hate this thread. i hate it because i AM against the war and i hate bush with a passion for putting our troops there, and causing the deaths of over 100,000 iraqis and over 1000 u.s. troops.
and others here (not including you Capt_Fantastic, i just dont feel like making another post) are saying some pretty f**ked up shit and crying about freedom of speech. well sorry, but there is also things you should not say and do based on common sense. if i showed up at your grandaddy's funeral laughing and dancing and playing the fiddle, i would not be breaking any laws and would be within my rights to say what i please. but i would still deserve an asskicking wouldn't I?