Are American troops undisciplined thugs dressed as soldiers?

Started by Mr Zero29 pages
Originally posted by PVS
my comments on STFU were aimed at the creator of this thread for generalising,

Originally posted by PVS
"everyone who bashes on their own troops needs to STFU unless they have seen action themselves and have a basis for comparison."

EVERYONE!

Your words. Not misquoted, not changed, cut and paste. Your words.

Answer my simple question about them - its the main problem I had with your post from the beginning. I'm not asking you to explain your twisting my 9-11 words, or your ridiculous "backpedal" accusation which was obviously wrong.. I think I have whittled your BS smokescreen down to the point where you have nothing left to distract with.

Explain your statement, I've repeated my question 5 times. Its the only thing I've specifically asked you - and its the thing you continually ignore.

I think it's a good thing the footage was there else nothing would have happened, and wether you like it or not but killing an unarmed wounded man is murder in every sense of the word

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
When you discuss 9/11 with Americans, you have to understand that it's a subject that people feel strongly about in this country. And your opinion of the war in Iraq doesn't have to equal your view of the world trade center attacks.

THANK YOU!!! 😎

its nice to see that someone understands

some people hear say whatever the f**k they please and dont care about the effects on others and when confronted they cry about freedom of speech.

you're free to your opinions, but have at least a shred of concern for others.

lil b, from what i have read hear, you seem to have had very unpleasant experiences which people here were very rude about, and even accused you of lying about. i find that sickening, and i hope you dont see me as another who would do such a thing.

with that in mind, you should understand why i would be offended when someone brings up a tragedy close to me in such a mocking hateful manner.

Originally posted by Mr Zero
EVERYONE!

Your words. Not misquoted, not changed, cut and paste. Your words.

Answer my simple question about them - its the main problem I had with your post from the beginning. I'm not asking you to explain your twisting my 9-11 words, or your ridiculous "backpedal" accusation which was obviously wrong.. I think I have whittled your BS smokescreen down to the point where you have nothing left to distract with.

Explain your statement, I've repeated my question 5 times. Its the only thing I've specifically asked you - and its the thing you continually ignore.

and i took back that statement and corrected it, which you call "backpeddling"
i meant it one way and it was read another. i corrected myself (as i already posted):

"everyone who bashes all of their own troops needs to STFU unless they have seen action themselves and have a basis for comparison."

and i will take it further yet:

to anyone i offended with my initial statement, i apologise.

now why dont you be a big man and realise what you said was reckless and hurtful.

A lot of ppl on KMC argue without a lot of manners it's sad tho
like your last line PVS was it really necessairy?

Originally posted by PVS
i meant it one way and it was read another. i corrected myself.
and i will take it further

Tell me how you actually meant it. It seemed pretty clear, but i'd love to know how you Intended it to read. Which words did you get wrong, because i cant read it any other way than the one we have outlined.

As to your offer for me to be a big man. I meant what i said, if you lost someone you knew personally in 9-11 we have common ground and I'll talk to you about it in a 9-11 thread.

Otherwise under your own rules you have no right to an opinion and you need to stfu about it, and fast. You may think you feel strongly but your opinion is worthless and inconsequential and degrades those of us with real feelings about the day: harsh rules I know, but you invented them.

Originally posted by PVS
lil b, from what i have read hear, you seem to have had very unpleasant experiences which people here were very rude about, and even accused you of lying about. i find that sickening, and i hope you dont see me as another who would do such a thing.

with that in mind, you should understand why i would be offended when someone brings up a tragedy close to me in such a mocking hateful manner.

No, I dont see you as someone who would display that kind of sickning behaiviour.

I however dont believe Zero has been mocking in any way - he has told the facts - is it not true what he has said?

I understand the tragedy that is 911 - civilians died, but those civilans are NO different to those in Iraq, or those in Japan, or those in Sudan nor those in Israel, Palestine or Columbia - they are all civilans, and its a tragedy in those countries as much as it is 911 in America.

Theres no differance in a plane flying into a skyscraper to a bomb landing on a church or a mosque or a school or a hospital anywhere in any of the other countries. Theres NO differance in an innocent civilan being shot by a soldier for no reason to the one of those civilians dying in the 911.

good point lil

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Theres no differance in a plane flying into a skyscraper to a bomb landing on a church or a mosque or a school or a hospital anywhere in any of the other countries. Theres NO differance in an innocent civilan being shot by a soldier for no reason to the one of those civilians dying in the 911.

Lb - you will never make an american understand that. Its not what the media tells them, so it cant be true.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
No, I dont see you as someone who would display that kind of sickning behaiviour.

I however dont believe Zero has been mocking in any way - he has told the facts - is it not true what he has said?

I understand the tragedy that is 911 - civilians died, but those civilans are NO different to those in Iraq, or those in Japan, or those in Sudan nor those in Israel, Palestine or Columbia - they are all civilans, and its a tragedy in those countries as much as it is 911 in America.

Theres no differance in a plane flying into a skyscraper to a bomb landing on a church or a mosque or a school or a hospital anywhere in any of the other countries. Theres NO differance in an innocent civilan being shot by a soldier for no reason to the one of those civilians dying in the 911.

Whatever!...nice avatar.

Originally posted by Mr Zero
Lb - you will never make an american understand that. Its not what the media tells them, so it cant be true.

I understand that.

Zero I think you would accomplish a lot less if you left out those witty remarks all the time

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Theres no differance in a plane flying into a skyscraper to a bomb landing on a church or a mosque or a school or a hospital anywhere in any of the other countries. Theres NO differance in an innocent civilan being shot by a soldier for no reason to the one of those civilians dying in the 911.

please take the bliders off and realise his statement says "YOU HAVE IT COMING". to imply that civilians DESERVE to die is the issue.

i do not value one life over another. never has the thought crossed my mind that they had it coming. THATS what i think is f**ked up lil b. i dont know how much more blatent it could have been.

Originally posted by Mr Zero
Lb - you will never make an american understand that. Its not what the media tells them, so it cant be true.

and lil b., if you choose to selectively disregard comments such as this, and deny that this person is steriotyping and hating all americans...so be it

you have it coming, maybe he ment the US had it coming (Zero tell me if I'm wrong) but I kinda agree with him, the US (as a nation) had the attack coming a long time already

Originally posted by PVS
please take the bliders off and realise his statement says "YOU HAVE IT COMING". to imply that civilians DESERVE to die is the issue.

You actually managed to make me so angry with that that i went right round the clock and back to calm. My conversation with you is over, say what you like.

no, 9-11 was an attack on citizens.
why do people choose to lump all of america together?
as if we all have coffee with george bush in the morning, and discuss
how we can all profit from the deaths of innocent middle easterm people.

should all citizens be held accountable for the actions of the corrupt upper crust leadership? WHY THE F**K DO I HAVE MY OWN DEATH COMING???

because thats basically what is being said here and its really pissed me off

I give up

Originally posted by Mr Zero
You actually managed to make me so angry with that that i went right round the clock and back to calm. My conversation with you is over, say what you like.

you are an ass and i dont give a s**t how you feel.
i corrected myself 3 times for the same comment and even apologised,
but you are just hear to piss on people and shoot your big mouth off.

Originally posted by PVS
and lil b., if you choose to selectively disregard comments such as this, and deny that this person is steriotyping and hating all americans...so be it

I dont know how many times i have to repeat myself in saying that i do not hate Americans. Quit generalising and putting words in my mouth - I never said that, nor implied.

I was only trying to make you release that it is exactly the same as anywhere else in the world, and that its a tad little too egoistical to think that the whole world should specifically care about 911 when civilains are dying everywhere, right now as we speak, yet you are here supporting the idea that because a soldier has shot a civilian, its ok because we're in a war.

''they had it coming'' was comments i heard on this board coming from some members, i never expected them to come from when talking about dropping a bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. When the shoe is on the other food, all looks different...