Cyclops vs. Spider-man

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
What you are saying makes no sense!!

You make it seem as if SM should never be hit

and as you said, that would be boring!! As you said, nobody would want to read about an un-touchable guy, but that's the guy you are depicting.

And how is it possible that when he is hit its crappy writing

but when he is pumped up to beat groups of powerful beings, its just 'adreneline/rage'

Yea. Right... Compare the amount of times he's been knocked down to the amount of times he's been pumped (my words, don't argue with that).

Could be 200 against one lol.

All those reasons you gave for him being hit are stupid. What made him 'too tired'/ tied up those times?

And 'his spidersense was not fast enough' ??? WTF!!

What happened to the 'the spidersense knows he's going to be hit -BEFORE- the shot is thrown' arguement? Huh?

I don't see why that's so hard to understand.

Originally posted by paeng
And don't think that Cyclops cannot hit Spiderman because Cyclops is a sharpshooter and Spiderman has always been hit by "NORMAL ROBBERS".

I have an issue of Spec. Spider-Man where Spidey is explaining the spider sense while whacking a robber, where all the while the robber never gets a hit off. Even when he pulls out a handgun and fires at Spidey while he's crouched on a wall, Spidey notes how he already knows of it's coming, how he can sense what's going on inside the gun, and once the bullet is fired, he's already gone.

When Spidey wants to ala when he's written correctly, no common street thug is a match for him.

no body is a mtch for spidey plus cyclops would looose fast spidey is just to fast for him and can dodge bullets that are faster than cyclops optic blast so that eye blast wouldnt help cyclops much and without the eyeblast to worry about cyclops would get owned quick

booya hoes

aren't the eyeblasts as fast as light? u dumb mother****er?

Calm down guys. Don't want a good fight going down the drain because you REALLY think you're right. Keep it clean, and it'll be cool.
Who? I was saying (about the spideysense failing) You said (I'l quote you later) that the SS works before the attack starts, and that's fine, but then Peter should know about the attack before it starts and move out of the way before it comes. That was the basis of your arguement. How is it possible that it didn't move fast enough? You are basically contradicting yourself. But what is preventing the same flaw to act up here? It may be rare ,but it can happen, as you said.

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Who? I was saying (about the spideysense failing) You said (I'l quote you later) that the SS works before the attack starts, and that's fine, but then Peter should know about the attack before it starts and move out of the way before it comes.

That was the basis of your arguement.

How is it possible that it didn't move fast enough? You are basically contradicting yourself ?

But what is preventing the same flaw to act up here? It may be rare ,but it can happen, as you said.

Such a thing can happen, but we all know it won't happen.

And there's absolutely no reason to assume why the spider-sense wouldn't work while dealing with Cyclops. Remember, in 99 % of the SM fights, it works perfectly.

I wouldn't hope too much on that 1 %.

If all of you knows a Miner's Helmet with Flashlight on Top let's compare it into Cyclops Visor. If Cyclops opens his blast and he just keep blasting like when you open a flashlight, No matter how Fast you ran I can still point the Flashlight at you with just a swing of my head. In real life Spiderman is no match to Cyclops.

Cyclops would exhaust himself if he sat there with his visor off and his eyes open looking all over the place like it was a flashlight.

What happens if they are indoors and Spidey jumps up in the air above Cyclops?

Next...What happens if Cyclops collapses the roof on himself?

Spiderman has shown himself capable of dodging Cyclops optic blasts in the past, there is absolutely no reason to believe in a one on one fight that he couldn't rinse and repeat.

Cyke can hit Spidey because he's much faster than the Kingpin. In the past the Kingpin(Only Human) and Spiderman fought in hand to hand.

So let me get this straight.

Cyclops fans are able to use Cyclops best performances as part of their arguement (with the geometric angles and 3 story high optic blast) yet they can only compare Spiderman's worst performances...

Interesting. Lets forget about the countless times Spiderman has dodged bullets, lazers, arrows, and projectiles in general. Lets forget about the time when Spidey single handedly handed the X-men their asses WITHOUT GETTING TOUCHED.

Of course, I must be the insane one to believe someone who can out manuever the entire Sinister Six at once...is not fast enough to out move the Kingpin.

That's exactly it. No matter how good Spiderman is he can be hit or be beaten.

Ok, so you've just agreed you put up a completely pathetic arguement.

next.

Are you thinking what you are saying, Spiderman and Kingpin fought hand to hand even if Spiderman beat the hell out of Kingpin but the point is Spiderman is hit by a normal human being. Imagine that as a Optic Blast(Minor adjustment that can pulvurize a building) then Spiderman is dead period. And Spiderman only win back in the early 90's because the writer did it and because Spiderman was such a big hit in those days and even now. But if you will base it on real life Spiderman can be easily beaten.

Actually, are you even thinking before you say anything?

You just said "Base it on real life Spiderman can be easily beaten"

It's a comic book...there is no "real life' in a comic book.

Kingpin is the bad guy in the comic...what good is a bad guy that poses absolutely no threat to the good guy whatsoever? In all actuality Spiderman could take Kingpins absolute best blows and not even be worst for wear, but in a comic Kingpin is going to be able to hit him, he's going to be able to hurt him a little. It's how comics are written. Not everyone can be Sentry....and even in that case, Sentry still got blasted by Void.

Spiderman's body, when being abused by the likes of Venom and Rhino, also pulverizes buildings. He's taken blasts from Shocker, Electro, and punches from the Hulk. Yet an optic blast is supposed to kill Spiderman...period? 🤨

His optic blast didn't even destroy the sentinel...it just trashed it.

No way in hell is Scott's optic blast going to kill Spiderman. It doesn't even kill the bad guys he uses it against.

And it still only takes one punch from Spiderman to take Scott out of comission.

Originally posted by paeng
Cyke can hit Spidey because he's much faster than the Kingpin. In the past the Kingpin(Only Human) and Spiderman fought in hand to hand.

Cyclops doesn't have a chance because in the past he's been beat up by dr. Moira Mac Taggert (I really hate to use the same kind of "logic" you use, but you really leave me no choice).

If Moira is fast enough for Cyclops, than Spider-Man is also.

1. (Spiderman vs Kingpin) My point is that he can be hit by just a normal human being. Because his not as fast as the Flash but even Flash has been hit by normal human beings. Now are you getting my point or your brain doesn't really undertand.

it all depends on if cyke goes "all out". If he uses the full force of his blast, spidey's dead, if not, spidey wins.

link, that sentinel got hit so hard it was launched back a football field, and chunks of it did come off.

and don't say spidey is more durable than a sentinel.

if cyclops can create a blast of such concussive force that it lauches a multi-ton sentinel and actually breaks some of it's thick ass titanium shell, how do you think spiderman is going to survive?

actually the sentinels are a brash mixture of titanium and chromium. not exactly adamantium, but pretty durable none the less, plus the fact that they are indeed several tons.

spidy will have a difficult time winning cuz if he comes too close, he's gonna end up just like sinister, and thats with his visor still on. so there will be no gumming up his visor with webs or webbing his feet, and dragging him or moving at the speed of sound, or being able to stand up to a blast.

granted sinister is not known for superhuman strentgh but he is more durable than spidy any day, so you see a blast(thats not even his most powerful) bypassing his healing factor and breaking every bone in his freaking body and reducing him to dust, so even if spidy dodges a few what prayer his he gonna have when he gets blasted?