Cyclops vs. Spider-man

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
SM has torn through steel, I am well aware, but has he torn through a Sentinel in seconds? No. Never has never will.

Hello Sentinel head!

Good Bye Argument!

Well... right. Damn.
But I believe that I also stated that since Cyke could completely obliterate a sentinel in seconds (unlike SM...), he could do the same to SM.
Also, what is stopping Scott from dodging SM's attacks? I mean, SM throws a punch the speed of anyone else right? I'm not sure though.

yeah he did it but i wouldnt call that secs.that is compared to cyke just taking off his visor

Cyclops incinerated Mr. Sinister in Inferno. All that was left was a skeleton. Fight begins, Cyke lets loose full blast wide range in Spidey's direction. Spidey is dead. End of story.

How can anyone compare Cyclops vs Spiderman based soley on who can take out a sentiel the quickest?

Spiderman is not Mr. Sinister. Mr. Sinister moves like Bo Jackson 2 days after his hip replacement in comparison to Spiderman. Mr. Sinister gets shot with a regular optic blast and it punctures a hole in him that heals itself. His body isn't as durable as Spiderman's in this sense. Spiderman has been hit by worst than Cyclops blast in the past...

Cyclops is not "peak" human, he is an average athletic human. His physical abilities are completely dwarfed by Spiderman.

Originally posted by stevusmagnus
Cyclops incinerated Mr. Sinister in Inferno. All that was left was a skeleton. Fight begins, Cyke lets loose full blast wide range in Spidey's direction. Spidey is dead. End of story.

It doesn't matter if you move as well as Bo before his hip surgery, you can't get out of the way, the beam is going to cover too much space all at once. Spidey at minimum gets knocked unconscious and it's over. The only way Spidey could win is if he had a sneak attack and that's not wat we're talking about here. We're talking about a fair fight. Spidey would be incinerated.

How would Cyclops incinerate Spiderman? Push him into a bonfire?

with spideys spider sence won't he know of danger before it happens?? therefore knowing about the blast before it happens??

Yeah. From what I've been paying attention to, the Cyclops promoters have been on the stance that Spiderman won't be able to dodge a wide beam attack from Cyclops because the end of his beam would be too wide and too fast to dodge.

no, it won't spidey will know about it

i think spidey has the upperhand, but if cyke goes "all out" and goes apesh*t or whatever, takes of his mask, and just starts glaring at everything, spidey, along with anybody else nearby, is doomed.... but really, what are teh chances of that?

i think we can all agree that an in-character cyclops would probably hit spidey once or twice with his average beam, then spidey would clock him and talk about how close that was...

but if cyclops did the rage blast, spiderman would be to it as the fly is to the flyswatter.

Cyclops may only get one shot to hit spidey if he misses it may be over for him.His best chance is to go all out blast on Spider-man this is the only way he can win and if he still misted with that blast he would be to weak to try again.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
How can anyone compare Cyclops vs Spiderman based soley on who can take out a sentiel the quickest?

Spiderman is not Mr. Sinister. Mr. Sinister moves like Bo Jackson 2 days after his hip replacement in comparison to Spiderman. Mr. Sinister gets shot with a regular optic blast and it punctures a hole in him that heals itself. His body isn't as durable as Spiderman's in this sense. Spiderman has been hit by worst than Cyclops blast in the past...

Cyclops is not "peak" human, he is an average athletic human. His physical abilities are completely dwarfed by Spiderman.

Exactly. People need to realize this.

Spidey has been hit by far worse than optic blasts.

And that wide-range optic blast? You do know it only spreads from left to right, correct? Spidey can VERY easily duck or limbo-dodge it. Or hell, even jump over it. It doesn't fill the atmosphere with optic blasts. Though I will admit, if Cyke were to take off the visor and just open his eyes, he would probably clip Spidey as he tries to dodge. But! If you know how's Cyke's optic blasts work, you'd know that the wider and more unfocused the beam is the VERY MUCH weaker the beam becomes. That is the main reason the visor is shaped the way it is, to control the stream of the blast to achieve the maximum power from it. Just plain, unfocused blasts from his open eyes would hit Spidey, yes, but not really do much to him. Especially if Spidey is doing his normal Spiderman thing and moving like hell to dodge the attack. It'd hit him, and that's about it. By the time Cyke attempted another attack, Spidey would be much closer. And if the same thing happens, it would hurt a bit more (Spidey being closer and all), but still not enough to knock Spidey down if it's not focused.

Before Cyclops can get his next attack in, he's lying unconcscious on the ground after Spider uppercuts his chin, right hooks him in the face. Cyclops is normal human underneath his optic blast. He will not, and mean WILL NOT get back up from a 10 ton punch from Spidey.

I do agree that Cyke could possibly take him down he managed to hit him with just about every blasts on their most powerful settings from his visor. But that's just the hard part right there, hitting Spiderman. Cyke's blasts move as fast as bullets (even though technically in theory they should move as fast as light, but they never do, and you really can't dispute this. There is no proof. That's why people are able to dodge them, because they've got about a bullet's-speed worth of time to dodge it), and I hope we all know that Spiderman can easily dodge bullets from even a moderate distance away.

Oh yes, and before I forget. Cyclops can, and has in the past, run out of energy for a period of time by expending it too much. He would blasts so much that he would use more energy than he was absorbing. So he was basically left disarmed and open for any attacks. Cyke is pretty good about watching his energy when firing blasts, but he has indeed hit this limit and run out of energy before. So he couldn't just sit in a lawn chair, sipping pina coladas, and attempt to blast Spidey all day. Sooner or later, that pina coloda will be empty, and so will his energy reserves.

I like Cyclops, I do.

But Spiderman wins this match. Cyke may make him work for it, but Spiderman wins.

You say that the Wider the Beams get the weaker it get's, you're wrong because a Full Optic Blast managed to destroy a planet once. One clip with a Full Optic Blast and Spiderman is gone just like what Cyclops did to that planet.

Sorry if I doubt you, but could you please provide some evidence for this? I can't see in a million years Scott being able to destroy a planet with his optic blast.

Just wait I can't remember where I read that comics but I'll one of my friends. I am not sure Either it's Uncanny X-men or Ultimate X-men.

Okay, lemme know. If you show me proof, preferably some sort of scan, then I will totally throw my vote to Cyclops.

But until then, cuz I still find that horribly difficult to believe, Spiderman still beats the hell out of Cyclops.