Cyclops vs. Spider-man

I think Cyclops would have to be very careful, but I don't think you can say Spidey would just beat the Hell out of him. If you're Cyke, the thing you need to look out for, of course, is Spidey landing a direct hit on you since he has super strength and you have athletic, but only human endurance. Your goal is to hit Spidey with an optic blast. To your advantage is that you have had years of practice in firing these things and you are pinpoint accurate. Spidey has great agility though. What I would do is to try to keep Spidey on the defensive, firing series of well timed short blasts so that he's hopping around constantly. Also I'd try to aim them so that the blasts positions keep him at a distance. If I could score one hit, enough to daze him for a second, I could follow up with a stronger blast and then the odds move strongly in my favor as he becomes less mobile. If we're talking fight to the death, then of course, I might rip off the visor and blast everything in his direction. All in all Cyke has to be careful but he can win. If you are Spiderman you've got to be nervous about Cyke's long range ability and constantly dodging blasts. Somehow you'd have to try to manage some offense, but to injure Cyke you've got to get close and that's what's difficult. You're not going up against some average joe villan or madman, you're going up against a highly trained and battle tested leader of the X-Men with a tremendous ability for strategy. It would be a great fight to see. Hopefully it would never happen since both are good guys.

I agree with you Magnus, it would be a great fight. Cyke is tip-top in tactics and battle strategies. The pinpoint optic blast strikes to keep Spidey on his toes but not necessarily take him out sound exactly like what Cyke would do. Mainly keep Spidey at a distance which severely limits Spidey's insane speed and strength advatage.

Another thing Cyke would have to worry about are Spidey's webs. They are a long distance attack that Spidey could use to keep Cyke occupied. Blasting webs here and there so Cyke has to blast the webs out of the sky to keep from getting hit.

This is a good matchup, guys.

Yes, I agree with you as well, Magnus. Both fighters would have to be EXTREMELY careful in this scenario.

I go back to what I previously said before the last post I made, that it would be a very good and close match.

I still believe though that Spidey would get the upperhand, THOUGH, very slowly. It wouldn't be over instantly, no.

This is a good match up indeed. I would kick Hilter in the balls to see it.

Cyclops would probably win unless he went all out like in X-Men evolution "The Stuff of Heroes" when he takes off his visor and fully blasts Juggernaut. If he blasted Spidey like that I feel bad for Spidey, he'll be in intensiver care @ a hospital somewhere for years, and thats if he survives at all.

I've seen that, too. But when he does that attack, he drains his power much quicker than usual, leaving him pretty weak only after a few moments of keeping that kind of attack going. So if he missed for awhile, but kept trying anyway, his optic beams would soon become very weak compared to what they could be.

whats this business about cyclops running out of energy? if he could run out of energy, wouldn't he just spend five minutes shooting full-power towards the sky...so he could, you know, look at somebody without killing them.

I belive cyclops can actually hurt himself if he use's full power for an extended period of time, even tho its still minutes on end

the stuff whatever you want to call it that comes out of his eye's is from another dimension or somthin if he strains himself he breaks down and it can hurt him.

much like a uber tame version of chamber, but Cyclops would never actually strain himself that hard or need too, so this dosent really apply

I say cycke has a damn good chance 70-80 if he's forty feet away, the only doubt comes from him occasionally geting roughed up by Wolverine....but thats just pointless writing.

I loved when he pawned Wolv's after the emma/jean bit

how it should always be

Originally posted by VENOMfan
I belive cyclops can actually hurt himself if he use's full power for an extended period of time, even tho its still minutes on end

the stuff whatever you want to call it that comes out of his eye's is from another dimension or somthin if he strains himself he breaks down and it can hurt him.

much like a uber tame version of chamber, but Cyclops would never actually strain himself that hard or need too

it won't hurt him, he'll get tired though...

yeah It has been a while since I checked, your right though

if anybody else wants to see the science bit of how hard Cyke can pop you one read on....

The width of Cyclops's eye-blast seems to be focused by his mind's psionic field with the same autonomic function that regulated his oriinal eyes' ability to focus. As Cyclops focuses, the size of the aperture changes and thus act as a valve to control the flow of particles and beam's relative power. The height of Cyclops's eye-blast is controlled by his visor's adjustable slit. His narrowest beam, about the diameter of a pencil at a distance of 4 feet has a force of about 2 pounds per square inch. His broadest beam, about 90 feet across at a distance of 50 feet, has a force of about 10 pounds per square inch. His most powerful eye-blast is a beam 4 feet across which, at a distance of 50 feet, has a force of 500 pounds per square inch. The maximum angular measurement of Cyclops's eye-blast is equivalent to a wide-angle 35mm camera lens field of view (90 degree measured diagonally, or the angle subtended by holding this magazine's pages spread open, upright at 9.5 inches from your eyes). The minimum angular measurement is equivalent to the angle that the thickness of a pencil would subtend at 4 feet (3.5 degree, about a quarter of an inch viewed at 4 feet). The beam's effective range is about 2,000 feet, at which point a 1-inch beam has spread out to 10 feet square, and then has a pressure of .38 pounds per square inch. Cyclops's maximum force is sufficient to tip over a filled 5,000 gallon tank at a distance of 20 feet, or puncture a 1-inch carbon-steel plate at a distance of 2 feet.

The extra dimensional supply of energy for Cyclops's eye-blast is practically infinite. Thus, so long as Cyclops's psionic field is active (which is constantly), there is the potential to emit energy. The only limit to the eye-blast is the mental fatigue of focusing constantly. After about 15 minute of constant usage, the psionic field subsides and allows only a slight leakage of energy to pass through the aperture. Cyclops's metabolism will recover sufficiently for him to continue in about an additional 15 minutes.

Originally posted by VENOMfan
yeah It has been a while since I checked, your right though

if anybody else wants to see the science bit of how hard Cyke can pop you one read on....

The width of Cyclops's eye-blast seems to be focused by his mind's psionic field with the same autonomic function that regulated his oriinal eyes' ability to focus. As Cyclops focuses, the size of the aperture changes and thus act as a valve to control the flow of particles and beam's relative power. The height of Cyclops's eye-blast is controlled by his visor's adjustable slit. His narrowest beam, about the diameter of a pencil at a distance of 4 feet has a force of about 2 pounds per square inch. His broadest beam, about 90 feet across at a distance of 50 feet, has a force of about 10 pounds per square inch. His most powerful eye-blast is a beam 4 feet across which, at a distance of 50 feet, has a force of 500 pounds per square inch. The maximum angular measurement of Cyclops's eye-blast is equivalent to a wide-angle 35mm camera lens field of view (90 degree measured diagonally, or the angle subtended by holding this magazine's pages spread open, upright at 9.5 inches from your eyes). The minimum angular measurement is equivalent to the angle that the thickness of a pencil would subtend at 4 feet (3.5 degree, about a quarter of an inch viewed at 4 feet). The beam's effective range is about 2,000 feet, at which point a 1-inch beam has spread out to 10 feet square, and then has a pressure of .38 pounds per square inch. Cyclops's maximum force is sufficient to tip over a filled 5,000 gallon tank at a distance of 20 feet, or puncture a 1-inch carbon-steel plate at a distance of 2 feet.

The extra dimensional supply of energy for Cyclops's eye-blast is practically infinite. Thus, so long as Cyclops's psionic field is active (which is constantly), there is the potential to emit energy. The only limit to the eye-blast is the mental fatigue of focusing constantly. After about 15 minute of constant usage, the psionic field subsides and allows only a slight leakage of energy to pass through the aperture. Cyclops's metabolism will recover sufficiently for him to continue in about an additional 15 minutes.

thats from marvel directory right?

its out of date...

but the 'how' his power works is right...

from the marvel directory yes, the site got a new look but none of the character's bios were updated. Im sure that has a lot to do with comic continuity tho, not saying cyclops but I could name a few

I think the basis for most of them is fairly accurate, If not care to enlighten? has he gotten some boost power or somthing?

No, you're pretty much right. That's basically what would happen to him.

Originally posted by VENOMfan
from the marvel directory yes, the site got a new look but none of the character's bios were updated. Im sure that has a lot to do with comic continuity tho, not saying cyclops but I could name a few

I think the basis for most of them is fairly accurate, If not care to enlighten? has he gotten some boost power or somthing?

he just was never shown to use his power to the extreme, he's only done so in recent years...

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Exactly. People need to realize this.

Spidey has been hit by far worse than optic blasts.

like what hammerheads admantium forehead? vulture's wings?, shocker's blasts? eletro's blasts, bullets from trigger happy cops or fleeing bank robbers?

Originally posted by manjaro
spidey can block scotts attack with a shield of web? dude you slay me

do the math of the physics. Cyclops cannot even exert a ton of force with his blast (Read Marvel official numbers for yourself)

cykes can exert MUCH MUCH more than just a ton of force with his blast

A ton of force?

I don't like cyclops and even I know he can exert more than a ton of force.

The man can knock out a mountain.
He has done it.

I still know spiderman will win cause he will never be hit.

He will crush cyclops.

Spiderman:"whoa! If not for my spider sense that blast would've taken me out.
Now I'm pissed!"

"PowWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!"

[spiderman connects a full force punch, takin' cyclops head off before he can turn his head to fire another blast.]

This is a close one. Cyclops optic blast appears (at full power) to hit as hard as a class 100 strong guy. Also Soidey can dodge bullet and guns etc. A guy with a gun has to have good hand-eye coordination to draw a bead. Cyclops does not need this he simply has to look where he's aiming (eye-eye coordination). Therefore his shots can be incredibly accurate. Spiderman is fast but is he so quick he cannotbe seen? i'm not so sure.
On the other hand spiderman's movements are unpredictable. He does not move like a human. He has incredible agility can leap 10's or hundreds of feet swing, from buildings stick to walls. He has jedi like ability to see the optic blast before Cykes shoots it. He also has a long range attack of his own the webbing stronger tham steel can be shot from many yards away. Spiderman's strength is a truly underestimated power. He can lift 10 tons. This is 20 000 pounds. A pretty strong orinairy guy lifts 200 pounds. Spider is a hundred times stronger. I reckon a gorilla is 10 times stronger than a man and they can tear human limb from limb literally.
If both fellows were going all out and in a relatively typical environent of a street battle in New York, then I would say this is a 50:50 with the loser dead or hospitalised.

Originally posted by paeng
You say that the Wider the Beams get the weaker it get's, you're wrong because a Full Optic Blast managed to destroy a planet once. One clip with a Full Optic Blast and Spiderman is gone just like what Cyclops did to that planet.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Cyclops cant beat Spiderman under any conditions whatoever. As long as his Spidey-Sense is in play, Parker beats Summers 11/10.

Originally posted by Wynndar
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Cyclops cant beat Spiderman under any conditions whatoever. As long as his Spidey-Sense is in play, Parker beats Summers 11/10.

* that would be 6/10 in Spidey's favor... considering the previous posts stated above...