that was the definition of Molecule Man's powers back when he first appeared in fanatstic four in like 1963...since then he has increased exponentially...he has complete control of anything...including mystical and organic matter...When a blast from Kubik turned Molecule Man's girlfriend Volcana into a hot puddle of Organic Goo, Molecule Man was easily able to reform her organic body down to every cell, protien, and atom...and have her psyche and spirit intact.
Graviton has the ability to manipulate gravitons granting him limited control over gravity.
According to the laws of physics, gravity is the weakest force. An ordinary refrigerator magnet can gererate enough force to lift a mass against the force of gravity generated by the entire planet.
This means that no matter how powerful his control over gravity, Magneto still controls the more powerful force.
Originally posted by Wynndar
that was the definition of Molecule Man's powers back when he first appeared in fanatstic four in like 1963...since then he has increased exponentially...he has complete control of anything...including mystical and organic matter...When a blast from Kubik turned Molecule Man's girlfriend Volcana into a hot puddle of Organic Goo, Molecule Man was easily able to reform her organic body down to every cell, protien, and atom...and have her psyche and spirit intact.
His degree of control over molecules is irrelevant if Magneto can simply manipulate the magnetic field between molecules, thereby preventing him from exerting control over them.
Graviton doesn't possess limited control over gravity, in his last appereance he was a master in the use of that, he was able to kill a woman in Australia when he was in U.S.A. lifting a small stone and throwing hit to her at the speed of a bullet.He can sense the presence of almost anything in contact with the gravitational force.
Magneto powerful than him?You're acting like a fanboy.Yes Magneto can manipulate the magnetic field between molecules but the gravity power is something that he cannot simulate in no way with his powers, he can slightly use gravity but on a low weak level.
Graviton can simply put Magneto down, than enhance the gravity around his body and kill him just blinking an eye, Graviton can make Magneto's helmet collaps on himself and Magneto would die.
According to physics the gravity is the dominant force of the universe, Graviton mastery over gravity depends on mental fatigue and on his concentration, so Magneto will never be nearly powerful as Graviton was.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
His degree of control over molecules is irrelevant if Magneto can simply manipulate the magnetic field between molecules, thereby preventing him from exerting control over them.
I think u wholy missed the point...Molecule man controls molecules...he controls energy...he controls the Electromagnetic spectrum at an exponentially higher level than Magneto...basically he controls reality itself...against molecule man, magneto is simply fodder.
Magneto is one powerful mutha, but there are many charcters that could not only match his power but beat the snot out of his a@@!
Here are a few:
Graviton-can control gravity on himself and other objects
Thor-what do have to say
Molecule Man-this is who I think is the most powerful character in the Marvel Universe
Doctor Doom-His genius would prove to be to much for Magnus
Professor X-Is it wasn't for thier past friendship and Charles pussy attitude he would win.
there are many more, but those are the ones who pop up first in my mind.
While the full extent of the Sentry's solar-based abilities is unknown, he has demonstrated super-strength, invulnerability, super-speed, the power of flight and the capacity to control light. The Sentry's abilities derive from an experimental serum that creates a phase-shift in his molecules, causing each atom to step an instant ahead of the current timeline. The serum induces a photosynthetic reaction, resulting in a hyperstate of consciousness. In effect, the Sentry's powers are limitless.
One Above All is The Living Tribunal. The top dog. Molecule Man would not be able to kill/defeat Juggernaut. He would only be able to use his molecule powers on the things around juggy. Molecule Man's powers are not beyond any type of God/s. His powers were created by a lab accident. So his powers being beyond the living Tribunal is rediculous. It would be like saying the Hulks power is beyond the living Tribunal.I think you are saying this is because. The moment MM gained his powers he accidently opened a pinhole to the Beyonder realm. Which is all explained in the Secret Wars II Mini-Series. I'm almost positive The Living Tribunal is more powerful than the beyonder(both of their power ARE infinite. The living Tribunal doesn't want anything to do with beyonder because that's not his style. It doesn't mean The Living Tribunal is conceding defeat.
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Graviton has the ability to manipulate gravitons, the elementary particles that transmit the force of gravity in most quantum gravity systems. This gives him limited control over gravity, not total control over gravity.
I am curious as to the scientific source of this statement:
"According to physics the gravity is the dominant force of the universe..."
According to quantum physics, the forces from weakest to strongest are as follows:
Gravity > Magnetism > Weak Nuclear Force > Strong Nuclear Force
Gravity is the weakest force, but has the largest range. Magnetism is a long-ranged force that is relatively strong, and therefore affects almost all phenomena from radio waves and lasers, to the structure of atoms.
Which brings me to my next point. By manipulating the magnetic fields between protons and electrons, Magneto can stabilize the structure of molecules, thereby preventing Molecule Man from exercising his ability to arrange molecules, no matter how great.
molecule man is no longer defined as having control of molecules....he has control of reality basically....which includes the same EM powers of magneto...who has limited control of the EM himself...magneto would easily be overwhelmed by someone so powerful that they can create an entire star system in moments.
Originally posted by talon00x
One Above All is The Living Tribunal. The top dog. Molecule Man would not be able to kill/defeat Juggernaut. He would only be able to use his molecule powers on the things around juggy. Molecule Man's powers are not beyond any type of God/s. His powers were created by a lab accident. So his powers being beyond the living Tribunal is rediculous. It would be like saying the Hulks power is beyond the living Tribunal.I think you are saying this is because. The moment MM gained his powers he accidently opened a pinhole to the Beyonder realm. Which is all explained in the Secret Wars II Mini-Series. I'm almost positive The Living Tribunal is more powerful than the beyonder(both of their power ARE infinite. The living Tribunal doesn't want anything to do with beyonder because that's not his style. It doesn't mean The Living Tribunal is conceding defeat.
Did u read my post, or just not understand it?...TOAA is not the LT...LT is the servent of TOAA...I did not say Molecule Man could defeat the Tribunal...I said his powers originate in a place outside of the Tribunal's jurisdiction. Read my post...try to understand it...then u may understand Molecule Man can easily defeat Jugs or his provider Cyttorak.
Well, I dont know if someone has posted this already but...
Ive had many arguements over the fact that because Magneto controls metal, the number one thing our cities are made out of and almost every item has traces of in it... (Our bodies have iron, our food and cereals and snacks and even dinners and meals have iron counts ETC) He is close to a villain that can litterily, control the world. Theoretically, he can manuevar the earths magnetic poles even, causing more than turmoil. Lets not forget he can control eltro-magnetic waves, also.
So, juding that he has complete control over any trace of metal on this planet, he is easily argueably, the strongest marvel character... even The Hulk, who so many says is invincible, could be taken over by Magneto, if they went by the fact all living creatures have traces of iron in there blood.