Magneto most powerful on earth?!

in mutants
1. franklin richards
2. nate grey
3. cable
4. apocalupse
5. magneto

anyway, mags is outclassed cause there are many other non mutant beings that surpass him, like sentry.

mags has the potential magnetic strength of earth's north pole and lets not forget that polaris has the potential magnetic strength of the south pole of the earth, the only difference is that doesnt know how to control her powers in ways that the great mags does

{btw, i really wouldnt put legeion above franklin richards in any type of psionic strength}

WEll I still think Molecular Man is pretty Powerful, bui what I want to say, this argument you always bring up with Magneto controling the force between Protons and Neutrons If I recall right that is actually the Strong Nuclear Force as you said before and between the core of an atom and an electron is the waek nucklear force, so I don't really see how Magneto could do anything like what you said, and I don't think he has complete control of the Magnetic Force or at least he never uses it.

All forces involved in interatctions between atoms can be traced to the magnetic force acting on the electrical charged protons and electrons inside atoms. This includes the forces we experience in ordinary material objects which come from intermolecule forces in our bodies and those in objects. It also includes all forms of chemical phenomena which arise from interactions between electron orbitals, and all optical phenomena which arise from traveling disturbances in the electromagentic field.

Dammit my english as well as my Physic skills can't keep up to that, so I just say you are right and shut my mouth now.

Originally posted by Wynndar
molecule man is no longer defined as having control of molecules....he has control of reality basically....which includes the same EM powers of magneto...who has limited control of the EM himself...magneto would easily be overwhelmed by someone so powerful that they can create an entire star system in moments.

Entire star systems in moments? Even the Shaper of Worlds (a completely evolved cosmic cube) can only make one world at a time, how can an incomplete cosmic cube create an entire star system in moments?

when he was transporting everyone back to Earth in secret wars, someone mentioned they could see stars out, when before there were non...then molecule explained that while transporting them faster than anyone had moved before, he was creating and igniting stars...I dont know how he does it, or why he demonstrated power beyond the shaper. The Shaper is more evolved and more versatile, thats for sure.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
All forces involved in interatctions between atoms can be traced to the magnetic force acting on the electrical charged protons and electrons inside atoms. This includes the forces we experience in ordinary material objects which come from intermolecule forces in our bodies and those in objects. It also includes all forms of chemical phenomena which arise from interactions between electron orbitals, and all optical phenomena which arise from traveling disturbances in the electromagentic field.

Now Im already aware that magneto has no power over gravity, weak nuclear forces, or strong nuclear forces...he controls magnetism, which explains his limited control over the EM spectrum (electric waves, radio waves, microwaves, heat, infrared light, visible light, ultraviolet light, x-rays, and a component of gamma rays) since magnetism is a wave present along the z-axis of all EM energy...since when did Magneto have control over weak nuclear forces, like electron orbitals? If that were his powers wouldnt he demonstrate it?

That indeed is a good question

Originally posted by Wynndar
...since when did Magneto have control over weak nuclear forces, like electron orbitals? If that were his powers wouldnt he demonstrate it?

Since electromagnetic foce and weak nuclear force are not separate forces but two aspects of electroweak force.

He's definitely one of the most powerful, but not the most powerful.
I assume you mean in marvel?
He's a mutant. If you mean in comics. no, superman is an alien. he would crush him. Thor, as well.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Since electromagnetic foce and weak nuclear force are not separate forces but two aspects of electroweak force.

if magneto were so strong why hasnt he succeeded in his damn goal, with a helmet that protects him against telepaths and everyone else basically being weaker than him, he definitely isnt THE most powerful but he's on that part of the food chain, what im saying is that you could only judge comic book characters by the extent of his powers IN comic books, youre digging in too deep scientifically and stating real life facts that havent (and probably will never) see its way to comic books

Originally posted by Havoc470
again, they're comic book characters....he hasnt demonstrated it in a comic book so theres no saying that he can actually do it, sure scientifically it may make sense (im not going to argue with you on that, then again you could most likely be wrong, but i cant say)

Magneto always had the ability to strip the adamantium from the skeleton of Wolverine but he did not demonstrate this ability until "Fatal Attractions". Just because he has not demonstrated an ability, does not mean that it is outside the scope of his powers.

Originally posted by Havoc470
f magneto were so strong why hasnt he succeeded in his damn goal, with a helmet that protects him against telepaths and everyone else basically being weaker than him, he definitely isnt THE most powerful but he's on that part of the food chain, what im saying is that you could only judge comic book characters by the extent of his powers IN comic books, youre digging in too deep scientifically and stating real life facts that havent (and probably will never) see its way to comic books

A story cannot exist without conflict. If Magneto had succeeded in his goal, there would no longer be conflict and no reason to keep telling stories.

X-men vol 1 #275, after defeating Zaladane, Magneto conjured his costume and helmet out of nowhere, you could see it forming the way Jim Lee drew it, does anyone know what power that is?

This topic rocks....who needs science class whan you can come here!

I was always under the assumption that magneto has demonstrated Gravity powers or at least had the potential to. Magnestisim is a powerful force and Mags is the Master! Let's just say he is near the top of the mutant food chain.

he can make anti-gravity fields I think.

yeah but there are a few more powerful

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Magneto always had the ability to strip the adamantium from the skeleton of Wolverine but he did not demonstrate this ability until "Fatal Attractions". Just because he has not demonstrated an ability, does not mean that it is outside the scope of his powers.

actually till that story arc it was up for debate on whether he could control adamantium to the full extent like he can with other metals

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
A story cannot exist without conflict. If Magneto had succeeded in his goal, there would no longer be conflict and no reason to keep telling stories.

At the end of the day, the entire planet is a dipole magnet and Magneto is the "master of magnetism".

at the end of the day there are more powerful people on earth than mags.

Blackbolts powers are a better example of control of weak nuclear forces...that is what he does...saying Magneto can control electron orbitals is only one persons opinion since i dont really recall him efficiently demonstrating a control over weak nuclear forces...not on a level like Blackbolt (demonstrating enough power to kill a watcher)...maybe he has enough control to turn his coke to diet coke, but not enough to suggest he is the most powerful on Earth.