pre-crisis superman vs Galactus

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
To me that sounds like he used his power set in increasingly more creative(verging on absurd at times) ways. Thats not coming up with new powers.

Its speculation to say he could come up with new powers to neutralise Galactus. That wasnt his power, that was absurd writing.

He was written inconsistently so to debate about him its best to look at his most consistent level portrayed throughout his existence.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
How does vibration stem off into sealing an entire dimension?

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Yes, speculation wasn't his power, it was absurd writing, like you said. Muwahahahaha it can't be escaped!

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Yes, we know.

Who knows the inner workings of comic science? Regardless it was achieved by vibrating. Thats a creative application of his power set not a new power.

If you knew then one would think you would've debated in accordance 😕

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
So I guess we should debate the time he got knocked out by a burgler or the time he sneezed away a universe. Or maybe the time he was caught up in a time vortex Lex Luthor created with orange juice. What do you mean he's not a comedic character?

I can give evidence to that theory. He was a big joke, to be honest. Superdickery.com is the best evidence to that.

I mean, look how not caring his is on that cover. Jeez. Or this one:

HUGE crises could have been averted if the jerk had told Bruce that his parents were getting murdered.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Since theyre not feats he's performed consistently, since hes done nothing of that regularly to tell us its within his power set then very unlikely.

I'm pretty sure that he did ridicolous stuff on many of his comics. 🤨

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I'm pretty sure that he did ridicolous stuff on many of his comics. 🤨

Not of the same nature DC.

Originally posted by Marcus4600
I can give evidence to that theory. He was a big joke, to be honest. Superdickery.com is the best evidence to that.

I mean, look how not caring his is on that cover. Jeez. Or this one:

HUGE crises could have been averted if the jerk had told Bruce that his parents were getting murdered.

lol, !ah hah i have solved teh riddle! if superman had of told bruce that his parents would be slain, he would have never became batman. so then superman must ask himself, was it worth it?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If you knew then one would think you would've debated in accordance 😕

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
It's kind of touching that you take me seriously. Usually, because I joke around 90% of the time, my 10% of seriousness is taken as jokes too. This is one of those 90% times though.

No worries mate. I admire how comfortable you are with your joke status. 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But then isnt that just speculation to say he'll be able to invent some way to win against Big G and neutralise his power cosmic? You cant use inconsistent, shoddy writing as an excuse to portray Pre C Supes as some omnipotent being, because he wasnt. In debates you can only go by feats theyve performed on panel which are in line with their power set displayed throughout their time in comics.

The creator of both Galactus and Darkseid said that Pre Crisis DS was on par with the Big G. Regardless of Pre C Supes' feats he was scared of DS and was never a match for him. Thats the crux of the matter.

You cant say oh he can invent this and that to win against anything. It doesnt work like that. You have no proof to say such things. Inconsistent writing does excuse such poor debating.

I cant wait to see how Pre C Supes does in Infinite Crisis. Hopefully that will put an end to this rubbish.

I understand what you are saying. But using pre-superman's great feats is the same as saying he can gain any strength or power. This is because when he performed each feat it went against being possible and writers created anything for superman to overcome. This is how pre-superman operated. You just can't disregard that! Even if we go only by feats along, then it is easy to see that superman possesses more than enough power to kill galactus. Arguing with that statement only shows that one is bias towards galactus. It shows that they are not objective to both sides. Also, talking about DS doesn't refute that superman doesn't have enough power to kill galactus. Prove that superman was scared of DS. If you can it still doesn't prove that superman will lose to DS. I assure you that if these two ever fought to the death, you would see a similar feat that superman has done before and in which superman would be the victor. Being scared of someone doesn't prove that you will lose to them (If superman was scared of course).
There is even large evidence that superman can take anything Galactus can dish out (accept kryptonite). Many are saying that Galactus can beat pre-superman without kryptonite without proof or evidence. Pre-Superman has not ever being mortally injured in his history. Thus the evidence points that he can withstand anything that Galactus can dish out. Since DS was on par with Galactus and Superman took the omega effect without serious injury then that is more evidence towards what I am saying. Lastly, I'm tired of people saying that so and so will win without refuting your points (not you though). They just say he will win because he's he. Very bias indeed!
I am one of the most humble of people (I know of) and very objective as well. If one properly refutes my arguements and give a good arguement of why so and so will win then I would change my side faster than superman can fly home.

Funny

This fight is the equivelant of SS Vs Regular Superman

SS>Regular Superman
Galactcus>>>>>Pre Chrisis Superman

Could one of the Moderators PLEASE lock this thread.

all right. the scan below is of IMMORTAL hercules. in part 2 of the series, this hercules beat the crap out of ZEUS. suffice to say, this version of hercules was one very tough bastard (best version i've ever read!) this is the one said to have held the earth/heavens.

explain why g can't do the exact same to supes. (don't say speed because a po'd g has hit the KEEPER! and the keeper's sole objective was ESCAPE because he was getting his ASS beat down by g!)

after that initial strike . . .

and that was the GOOD news!!

ps-i think i once told someone on the forum it was an amboeba that herc had been changed into. my bad -- it was the old standby, protoplasmic slime!!

rofl@those pictuers

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I'm still not saying that Superman would be able to defeat Big G, but G turning Hercules into slime doesn't really mean that much.

People have tried to transmute Superman time and again in Pre-Crisis times and always failed. The only times it ever worked was with magic. No amount of technology has succeeded.

He's Pre-Crisis Superman, ie invulnerable.

For example - a nuclear powerplant exploded, fusing the conciousness of a man into a now super-powered robot body.

This robot body has powers of molecular transmutation and is capable of creating nuclear fission in objects with a single blast - destroying anything.

Except Superman. Firstly he hits Superman with a transmuting blast, to turn Superman into metal.

It fails - Superman's invulnerable forcefield save him, and only a millimetre thin layer of air around his body is turned to metal, much to the relief of the crowd.

Later on, when Supes hits the robot, it begins nuclear fission, ala Firestorm. Supes grabs him and flies into space with him as he explodes. Supes is totally unharmed by the detonation.

Pre-Crisis Superman is invulnerable.

Be it laser beams, nuclear bombs, bullets, cosmic rays, black-holes, planetsmashingpunches, transmutation, chronal vortexs, temperature, pressure, vacuum etc etc etc etc and so forth - if it's not KNite or magic, it's not coming in.

The only way Big G can win this encounter is using his powers to create KNite radiation to defeat Superman.

Even this depends on Superman actually staying still enough/in this dimension/point of time etc etc for the rays to hit.

Don't get me wrong, Big G will win this after a while.

But it won't be a one-shot.

double post

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How is this even being debated?