JLA VS. X-Men : The End To The Debate

Whobdamondog, The characters listed for the X-Men are in fact some the most powerful members of the X-Men. Cable was an option, but he's not integral to the X-Men. X-Man was an X-Man for like a day. I can't think of any other powerful members that would give the JLA a run for their money.

The JLA members listed is final. They ARE the JLA. I'm not going to add Vixen or Huntress to make things easier for the X-Men. You seem to object having Superman, GL, WWa and for some reason Aquaman on the team. What would be left? The Outsiders? And if you've read any of the previous threads. I like the X-Men BETTER than the JLA. I'm just mature enough to recognize that they would lose against the JLA.

Your story is full of weaknesses. What happened to wonder woman while rouge had her power? You skipped that part.

Response to supessucks: Hooked on Phonics works

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Wonder Woman and Rogue trade terrible blows, but the battle quickly begins to favor the Amazon Princess. With her vastly superior strength, speed, and warrior know-how, Rogue finds herself on the precipice of defeat. Realizing that her opponent is too powerful to defeat, Rogue takes off her gloves and attempts to utilize her absorption powers. Theoretically, Wonder Woman is extremely vulnerable to Rogue’s skin-to-skin absorption powers due to her usual lack of clothing. Rogue immediately grabs hold of Diana’s bare skin and begins absorbing her powers. Due to the magical nature of Wonder Woman’s powers, the absorption is not instantaneous but she is by no means immune. Rogue is growing more powerful by the minute and gains several of Diana’s memories, or more specifically information regarding the JLA. Rogue immediately alerts Jean and begins transmitting these memories to her teammates so that they know what they are dealing with. Weakened but not yet defeated, Diana uses a complex martial art maneuver to wrest herself from Rogue’s grip.

Wonder Woman’s warrior temper grows thin from Rogue’s boasting and energy-absorbing blows. Utilizing years of experience and training, Diana launches a series of dizzying blows and martial art maneuvers. Rogue experiences a sense of déjà vu as she once again finds herself on the brink of defeat, and attempts to absorb more of Diana’s powers. Diana is ready for her however and unleashes a nerve strike paralyzing Rogue. Wonder Woman finishes her with spinning roundhouse kick that makes Rogue’s head swivel back and thusly falls into unconsciousness.

sorry, they're referred to as typographical errors, hope I'm not arousing any anger. Depending on how long rouge touched WW, she would be without her power, for a time exactly 60 seconds times longer than she was touched.

SÓkay

Whoops, I thought you were referring to my spelling...

I still feel that the X-men are more powerful than the Justice league. The story is biased towards the Justice league.

*Sigh* Okay, that's your opinion

Originally posted by Draco69
Whobdamondog, The characters listed for the X-Men are in fact some the most powerful members of the X-Men. Cable was an option, but he's not integral to the X-Men. X-Man was an X-Man for like a day. I can't think of any other powerful members that would give the JLA a run for their money.

The JLA members listed is final. They ARE the JLA. I'm not going to add Vixen or Huntress to make things easier for the X-Men. You seem to object having Superman, GL, WWa and for some reason Aquaman on the team. What would be left? The Outsiders? And if you've read any of the previous threads. I like the X-Men BETTER than the JLA. I'm just mature enough to recognize that they would lose against the JLA.

I'm the man dog...don't you forget it... 😎

Anyway...In regards to your other statements...

The team you have created is powerful..no doubt about it..but for arguments sake..they still pale in comparison to the JLA team you have selected.

Post Crisis Supes has moved a freakin moon.. Aquaman has lifted an entire city, and lets not forget to include his telepathic ablities..

Now you say that these three are evenly matched with an ambigously gay russian, dwarf with an attitude, and a dude whose most monumental feat is banging Jean Gray? Riiiiiiiiightt buuudy...you keep dreaming...😮

Dude.. the only weak link you have on that team is Batman..but we all know about his extrodinary prep time abilities...so I bet you if he prepared before the battle..he could take both teams. 😆

The only way this battle is going to be more evenly matched is if you let Jean fully utilize the Pheonix Force.

All right WD, what X-Team would you create to face the JLA?

Colossus is not gay. He's Ultimate version is.

Jean could utilize the Phoenix Force if it allowed her to. The Phoenix on the X-Men back in the 80s was not really Jean but a clone. The Phoenix during the Morrison run had the power to reshape time and space (and she did). Jean has never truly utilized the Phoenix Force in the comics, so adding it to the team would be fictitious. A cosmic entity with the power of creation would be completely unfair to JLA.

okay lets even things up a bit the..

and by the way I said "ambigously gay.." which means his sexuality is a mystery..lol

Anyway here goes

X-team consists of

Pheonix(Rachel Summers version can almost fully utilize pheonix force. Damb powerful IMO)

Nightcrawler

Rogue

Magneto...lol..He was a member for a while...

Storm

Iceman

Magneto? Okay, whatever. Judging the roster, the victory still goes to the JLA. Storm and Iceman are taken out the same way, I had before. Nightcrawler would teleport around, hitting the JLA at all angles. But his blows wouldn't do much. One good hit from any of them would take him out. Most likely the Flash. Magneto is one the most powerful beings in the Marvel Universe. But against GL, that means the big doughnut. The ring can generate any and all energies. That's why its the most powerful weapon in the universe. Rachel Summers is extremely powerful. But shes still does not know how to use the Phoenix Force to its full potential. Shes a teenager, and still vastly inexperienced compared to the JLA roster. She'd probably be the last one to go down.

P.S. From what I know about the current run with Claremont. Rachel no longer has access to the Phoenix Force. The eye tattoo and the fire is just fluff. She's still incredibly powerful with her TK and telepathy.

jla still win.

the only thing cyclops is good for is leading and organising the team.

if he actually cut loose he could be useful but he won't he'll be too busy trying to keep everyone alive and looked after.

green arrow is probably the weakest of all, he'd be knocked out in a second (pick almost any x-man to do it)

colossus is the only one who would physically last (if its current colossus), he could take down mm if he was kept out of piotr's mind, thereby handing an advantage to the x-men.

i dont think rogue would last against supes or ww.

still say jla...

I don't know Draco, It looks to me like your more of a JLA fanboy than you are a X-boy...

Anyway, I still think your cutting the JLA way too much slack. The Manhunter would go down rather quickly against Pheonix, due to his fire phobia. Batman would definately fall before Nightcrawler. Aquaman and Iceman would be a good matchup, and the battle could go either way.

The last two standing on the X team would probably be Magneto and Pheonix, and on the JLA side it would probably be Superman and Wonder Woman. If Phoenix were using her full power, I would probably favor her and Magneto over Wonder Woman Supes.

Jean doesn't KNOW MM is vulnerable to flame (and he isn't anymore). MM is a better telepath than Jean. He's been raised in a society of telepaths. He once connected telepathically with every person on Earth. He once mindwiped 70 different people all over the globe. Jean would need Cerebra to accomplish these feat

Whobdamondog, YOU are cutting the X-Men way too much slack. GL would neutralize Magneto. Why? His ring can do anything. Magneto is bound to one element. GL is bound by the power of his imagination and willpower. The Flash can travel at speeds exceeding light. He could take out most of the X-Men by himself. In actuality, I'm really counting the X-Men some slack. Rachel as the Phoenix, is just a teenager. She lacks experience. She put up a hell of fight but against a man wielding the most powerful weapon in any universe, a god-like alien, and a goddess reborn, she would lose. I don't know why you even added Nightcrawler. Sure he can teleport around, hitting and kicking every person he sees. But he would have to constantly teleport to avoid attack. Eventually he would be tagged. And no way is the Dark Knight losing to the Fuzzy Elf.

You've accused me of being a JLA fanboy. I'm not. I recognize the facts. I'm not going to go out of wing, and create a X-Men team that has never existed in order for my favorite team to win. Which perfectly describes you. I give facts, you give assumptions. You're a X-Men fanboy with an obvious bias against the JLA. I'm neutral.

You're deluding yourself. Anyway you put it the JLA would topple the X-Men. No amount of whining and badgering is going to change that.

well put it this way, the jla is essentially dc's best and brightest, the x-men is not. pit dc's best against marvels and thats a good fight. theres a huge list. jla beats x-men, its not a fair battle to begin with.

Originally posted by Draco69
Jean doesn't KNOW MM is vulnerable to flame (and he isn't anymore). MM is a better telepath than Jean. He's been raised in a society of telepaths. He once connected telepathically with every person on Earth. He once mindwiped 70 different people all over the globe. Jean would need Cerebra to accomplish these feat...

For the last damb time..I'm referring to the Rachel Summer's version of Pheonix..not Jean Freakin Gray 😠..That version went toe to toe with Necrom(a powerful wizard who had access to the Pheonix Force) and was moving MF'ing planets around with her power... She doesn't have to know that Martian Manhunter has a weakness to fire..Hell..most of her power consists of a pyrokenetic flame like aura..MM's toast as soon as he sees her power up..

Originally posted by Draco69

Whobdamondog, YOU are cutting the X-Men way too much slack. GL would neutralize Magneto. Why? His ring can do anything. Magneto is bound to one element. GL is bound by the power of his imagination and willpower. The Flash can travel at speeds exceeding light. He could take out most of the X-Men by himself. In actuality, I'm really counting the X-Men some slack. Rachel as the Phoenix, is just a teenager. She lacks experience. She put up a hell of fight but against a man wielding the most powerful weapon in any universe, a god-like alien, and a goddess reborn, she would lose. I don't know why you even added Nightcrawler. Sure he can teleport around, hitting and kicking every person he sees. But he would have to constantly teleport to avoid attack. Eventually he would be tagged. And no way is the Dark Knight losing to the Fuzzy Elf.

Let me get this straight...You believe a mere mortal in a Holloween Costume...whose had his back broken by a steroid user.. is going to overcome a metahuman who can teleport at will and has fighting abilities on par with some of the greatest in comics?

BWAH HA HA HAH AHAHAHAH...what the hell have you been smoking boy?😮‍💨...Can I have some when your done?

As far as Magneto goes..Do some Science Homework son. Magneto has control over everything in the electromagnetic spectrum..The key emphasis is on the word "electro-MAGNETIC." This includes light..electricity..shit just about everything. And we've seen what Magneto can do when he get's pissed..Iron from the blood..contolling electrical impulses in the brain...I don't really think that GL would have an easy time with him.....

Originally posted by Draco69

You've accused me of being a JLA fanboy. I'm not. I recognize the facts. I'm not going to go out of wing, and create a X-Men team that has never existed in order for my favorite team to win. Which perfectly describes you. I give facts, you give assumptions. You're a X-Men fanboy with an obvious bias against the JLA. I'm neutral.

The X-Team that I've used is very similar to the 80's version. I believe it consisted of Pheonix(Rachel Summer's Version..Don't say Jean Gray anymore..😠), Magneto, Shadowcat, Colussus, Wolverine...and Storm..I could be wrong however..but I know the lineup was very similar.

Neutral? Puhleaase... I know the X-men would probably loose..but come on..You've given the JLA huge advantages. I mean everything in your scenario points to one conclusive fact..get ready for this..duh..duh.duuuh..daaah..
YOUR A FREAKING JLA FANBOY..AND YOU KNOW IT...BWHAHHAHAHAHAHA...ER..UM.HA..HA...

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Whodamondog, why I'm arguing with drunken illiterate Jack Black wannabe like you is beyond me. Now I know how John Kerry felt during his debate with George Bush.

First, I'm well aware the facially tattooed Rachel Summers. Her using the Phoenix Force was considered during the fight. Her power is unimaginable, and MM doesn't likely stand much of chance against her alone. That's why I said she would be the last of the X-Men standing. And her pyrokinetic aura (use the spellcheck tab) is not fire. It's cosmic aura that simply looks like fire. When the original Phoenix was holding the White Queen in her talons, Emma wasn't burnt to crisp. The fire is a metaphor for the fire that creates life and thusly destroys it.

I'm a triple major at Drew University (BY THE WAY, EVERYONE: YAY I GOT ACCEPTED AS A TRANSFER TO CORNELL. I'M SO HAPPY! I JUST GOT IT TODAY. COMPARED TO THE $40,000 I HAD TO PAY AT DREW NOW I ONLY HAVE TO PAY $6000 AFTER FINANCIAL AID TO CORNELL. WE ARE GOING TO PARTY TONIGHT!) and science is one of them. The electromagnetic spectrum is misnomer. It applies to the different types of radiation. It has little to do magnetism at all in fact. The electromagnetic spectrum consists of gamma waves, radio waves, visible light waves, microwaves, infrared waves, and x-rays . That's the middle school version. The electromagnetic spectrum is just a dialect of wavelengths and energies that translate to radiation. Now Magneto has stated many times he has complete control of the entire electromagnetic spectrum. This may or may not be a mistake made by the writer who lacks scientific knowledge. If Magneto had complete control over the entire electromagnetic spectrum, he would have displayed control over microwaves, and would have used in fashion like the Avenger Firestar. If he had control over gamma rays, why not create an army of Hulks? Gamma rays are incredibly volatile. It's often used to create nuclear warheads. Why not use them to destroy his enemies? Magneto has never used his powers to control light, so we can assume he doesn't have it. Same thing with x-rays. Magneto's powers match his namesake. He has magnetic powers. Control over metallic proprieties. He also has access to the electromagnetic field that surrounds our planet. He can disrupt radio waves and electrical energies because it travels through the electromagnetic field. The others don't (not conventionally anyway, it's more complicated than that, but I won't get into that..your head may explode if it hasn't already)

Nightcrawler is a very good fighter. He wields a very unique style of fighting that many comic book readers enjoy. But his teleporting takes a lot out of him. Dodging a speed demon, rapid-fire heat vision, dozens of batarangs, and green plasma teletubbies would require continuous teleporting. Eventually he would be taken out. If Batman were to face him, the battle would at first favor Nightcrawler. But if his prior feats show anything, they show that Batman is an iceman ( a calculated fighter) who eventually detect a pattern in his teleportation. Sonic weapons, tear gas and any other scary crap Brucie has in his utility belt would be sufficient to take Kurt out. Batman's a master tactician who's survived hell and worse. A teleporter is just old news to him.

Give it up Whodamondog, cause you're not "the man". Just a dog. You have nothing to offer but a blatant inferiority complex and a bitter taste of poor grammer. I can tell you don't read my arguments, that in itself would be a miracle, so you make annoying jargon that's completely devoid of facts and just full of stupidity. Give it up, and just bow before your intellectual superior. (Yeah, I know I'm arrogant bastard sometimes 🙂

Originally posted by whobdamandog
For the last damb time..I'm referring to the Rachel Summer's version of Pheonix..not Jean Freakin Gray 😠..That version went toe to toe with Necrom(a powerful wizard who had access to the Pheonix Force) and was moving MF'ing planets around with her power... She doesn't have to know that Martian Manhunter has a weakness to fire..Hell..most of her power consists of a pyrokenetic flame like aura..MM's toast as soon as he sees her power up..

I totally agree with you. (not about the fanboy part.) Using his magnetic fields, Magneto could manipulate any metal that anyone was wearing, (e.g.:Wonder Woman's Bracelets, Green Lantern's RING.) or any other form of energy. Rachel's powers far exceed Martian Manhunters, (The girl moved planets with her mind.) She could easily use her telepathic powers on Superman. Nightcrawler could definately take down Flash (teleport in front of him, crushing kick to the face, bye-bye, Barry,) or Batman, (Need I explain? He can't fight half as well as Nightcrawler. Against Nightcrawler's teleportation and agility, Batman would never land a punch! Nightcrawler dodges close range bullets for Christ's sake!) Nightcrawler's spatial awareness would make his teleportation combos lethal to the human JLA members. Good team Whobdamandog, justice league would get their asses handed to them.

*Sigh* Read the thread after Whodamondog. You'll see that I refuted everything.