To Supessucks:
Quote: Draco, don't say the ring isn't metal if you can't prove it.
Response: It cannot be taken off magnetically because its not made of metal. Its made of a element native to Oa.
Batman has spent literally a third of his life going around the world learning and mastering every martial art known to man. He's met the best fighters in the world and bested them. Nightcrawler was raised by a gypsy family and was a performer at a circus for a third of his life. The people who saw him didn't know he was a mutant, but rather a heavily-disguised human with a costume. When he was found out, he didn't fight the village mobs. Case in point, he ran. He ran with his tail between his legs. Charles Xavier saved his sorry @$$ from the mob. Nightcrawler was never, and never will be, a better fighter than Batman. As I said before: " If Nightcrawler attacked Batman first and managed to teleport rapidly with a dozen punches and kicks, then yes NC would beat Batman. If Batman faced Nightcrawler in the latter portion of the battle, than no. Batman would have deduced a pattern or trend in Nightcrawler's attack (i.e. teleporting from behind) and the elements that come with his teleportation (i.e. brimstone smell, and a "bamf" smell). Batman would take him out with preptime. Nightcrawler's been beaten by lesser opponents. (i.e. the flamethrower guy in the London tunnels." Nightcrawler loses hands down. And please, do something about your obvious bias against anything that falls under the DC logo.
To Pr183: I agree
jesus f*cking christ
batman is trained in tons of martial arts, and is accomplished in all of them.
he beat lady shiva (the best martial artist in dc)
just so you know...
almost every x-man is human, they just have one or two extra abilities. their bodies are as vulnerable as ours in most cases.
cyclops, jean, storm, iceman, colossus (human form), professor x, magneto, nightcrawler...
First of all, Draco, Nightcrawler fought against the mob, but was obviously drastically outnumbered. Secondly, Batman has no power or superhuman abiltity. I like batman, however If he faces an opponent who possesses a superhuman abilities such as Nightcrawler he will surely lose. Nightcrawler teleports from one place to another instantaneously (mind you "instantaneously" means faster than the speed of light, as in immediately.) He is much more agile than any human, martial artist or not. He would hit Batman too many times and avoid too many of Batman's attacks. And finally, as I said Nightcrawler is not bound to a specific pattern of teleportation; he can teleport into the air, on the ground, or wherever he likes. There is no pattern for Batman to follow.
pr1893,How about you tone down the language a bit? The debate really isn't that serious.
Batman can't hit what he can't see.
i didn't say it was... i just curse a lot 😬
and batman can anticipate. even though nightcrawlers ability is random, his brain isn't. batman is the master at anticipating strategy. he'd figure him out sooner or later... but it won't be without injury by any means...
To supessucks:
Yes, I'm sure that the mob of farmers with pitchforks and obese housewives with butcher knives was quite the challenge for Kurt. Nightcrawler does teleport "instantaneously". Unfortunately, he has to think and react to teleport. By pattern, I did not mean dog-cat-cat-dog, but rather his fighting style. He can teleport anywhere he wants (provided that he sees where he's going). But his attacks are not instantaneous. Batman would get hit a lot, but eventually he would get his number. Batman would unload his utility belt releasing tear gas, sonic weapons, light flares, etc. Nightcrawler would be disoriented enough for Batman to take him out. Batman has faced numerous teleporters and has dispatched them all. Nightcrawler is faster, stronger and more agile. But Batman is a master tactician. He's outsmartted the best. All he needs is one good hit and Kurt's done. Batman is a better fighter, a lot smarter, and would prevail.
Whenever the JLA get into a battle, everybody else fights while Batman, the arrogant playboy he is, is waaaay in the back, completely hidden, sipping some Kool-aid, and ordering around the rest of JLA like they're cattle. I think Nightcrawler would be more concerned with the towering red and blue giant firing heat vision at the team.
One hit from batman would definitely not take down Nightcrawler. Batman has the strength on an ordinary man. With his spatial awareness and reflexes, Nightcrawler could avoid all of Batman's weaponry. The fact of the matter is that Batman cannot defeat Nightcrawler as he would not be able to affect him with his weaponry. You say that Batman has beaten a teleporter before; I would have no knowledge of this, and it is an irellevant fact. Nightcrawler is not simply a teleporter. I doubt that Batman has fought anyone with Nightcrawler's degree of speed, strength, and agility, that Nightcrawler possesses with a teleporting ability.
nightcrawler would be put by one good punch from batman. batman is olympic level human, nightcrawlers agility and teleportation don't make him stronger... he doesnt have enhanced strength.
Actually pr1983, professor Hulk is much smarter than Batman. Bruce banner is a genius
a scientific genuius, not a tactical one, there is a difference...
To Supessucks:
Think of the aspects of Nightcrawler's teleportation. A sudden burst of purple and black gas. A very loud "bamf". And the sweet, pungent stench of rotten eggs. These aspects have been exploited before. If Nightcrawler teleported silently and without the fashionable entrance, than Nightcrawler would have a huge advantage. But he doesn't. Whenever he teleports, its loud, it stinks and is quite easy to spot. If Nightcrawler teleported behind Batman, ready to catch him by surprise with a spinning roundkick, Batman would parry the blow. Why? Because Batman would hear a very loud "Bamf", smell a disgusting scent of rotten eggs, and feel a rush of air that accompanies the teleportation.
I have already expressed the fact that Batman is outgunned. If fighting- ability and tactics are so absolute, why don't Batman and Captain America beat every other super hero.
Pr1983, all mutants possess strength levels superior to normal humans as their musculature and body systems are superior (hence the name Homo superior.)