I wanna belive in god..

Originally posted by Zebina
I was taught that God loved all his creations...so why would he allow all of these terrible things like murder, rape, kidnapping, wars, etc. go on?

There is a universal law of free will so even though God doesn't want those things to happen, they will anyway. Do you really think that God would "allow" for all the terrible things in the world to happen if he could prevent it?

The universal law of free will says that neither Satan nor God can interfere directly in our lives or the things we do.

Originally posted by Mr Brightside
The signs were only STARTING in 2000!
Just because no human knows when it's going to happen doesn't mean it won't. So much has been happening since 2000, the bombs, the terrorism, the racism, the war, the riots, the hurricanes(even in britain), tsunamis....

Oh, yes things that have never happened before.

You should learn history, these are good times.

Originally posted by genius
There is a universal law of free will so even though God doesn't want those things to happen, they will anyway. Do you really think that God would "allow" for all the terrible things in the world to happen if he could prevent it?

The universal law of free will says that neither Satan nor God can interfere directly in our lives or the things we do.

But what about when God flooded the Earth because of all the sin?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Oh, yes things that have never happened before.

You should learn history, these are good times.

I know that there are many hurricanes in America, but i know there are few in Britain. And recently Britain has probably had the worst kind of weather than there has been for a long time (Since I live there). Personally, I ain't that good at History, but i do know that recently there has been alot of hustle and bustle, maybe even the thought of another Gulf war.

Originally posted by Mr Brightside
I know that there are many hurricanes in America, but i know there are few in Britain. And recently Britain has probably had the worst kind of weather than there has been for a long time. Personally, I ain't that good at History, but i do know that recently there has been alot of hustle and bustle, maybe even the thought of another Gulf war.

Check out the little ice age.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

Originally posted by finti
so you are judging them, what a christian treat so in line with the actual way of christians.

I was speaking hypothetically on the account of the real hypocrites out there.

Originally posted by debbiejo
What??!!??...You don't care about the evil Christian??.....But they're Christians just like you......Now you're condemning them to hell, making yourself judge and jury?.......As I've said before. Would god choice a non believer with the fruits of the spirit or a believer with no fruits?

Thats not what I meant. I mean, that I'm not going to let that get in the way of my spiritual walk with God.

Originally posted by Mr Brightside
Does every single atheist know everything there is to know about Evolution? I think not!
Some 'Christians' haven't read it atall, but claim to be Christians. I have tried to read and i have taken in as much as i can, I am still reading, being the busy person I am.

Dude I read the bible and all that crap Christians say is BS you know why because Jesus didn't do most of the things predicted in the OT, So how the hell is he the messiah?!

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Dude I read the bible and all that crap Christians say is BS you know why because Jesus didn't do most of the things predicted in the OT, So how the hell is he the messiah?!

Faith is hard to overcome, blind faith is imposable to overcome.

All this talk of 'god' and 'belief' will soon be erased and meaningless when we all get destroyed in an random hypernovae...

What I guess Im trying to say is dont take anything too seriously, and enjoy the one opportunity you know you have(life on earth). Following Morals will, if not get you into eternal paradise, then enhance your earthly experience. This is my way of life and it makes sense to me.

😕

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
All this talk of 'god' and 'belief' will soon be erased and meaningless when we all get destroyed in an random hypernovae...

What I guess Im trying to say is dont take anything too seriously, and enjoy the one opportunity you know you have(life on earth). Following Morals will, if not get you into eternal paradise, then enhance your earthly experience. This is my way of life and it makes sense to me.

😕

I agree, I only talk about God, to talk about things hard to talk about. Like, stop living for an "afterlife heaven" and realize we live in heaven now. 😄

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Dude I read the bible and all that crap Christians say is BS you know why because Jesus didn't do most of the things predicted in the OT, So how the hell is he the messiah?!

How do you know he didn't do the things? Did you see him yourself? Did you ASK him?

Yet i still don't understand how Fish 'evolved' into mammals or the like when mammals have a double circualtion but fish have a single circulation, it has got to be all or nothing... even the science books at school say it is impossible...

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
All this talk of 'god' and 'belief' will soon be erased and meaningless when we all get destroyed in an random hypernovae...

What I guess Im trying to say is dont take anything too seriously, and enjoy the one opportunity you know you have(life on earth). Following Morals will, if not get you into eternal paradise, then enhance your earthly experience. This is my way of life and it makes sense to me.

😕

Ok, so let's go and save each other the hassle of dying in a hypernova and start shooting each other!
I tell you! The more i hear you atheists it convinces me that atheism is an organised death cult!

Originally posted by Mr Brightside
Yet i still don't understand how Fish 'evolved' into mammals or the like when mammals have a double circualtion but fish have a single circulation, it has got to be all or nothing... even the science books at school say it is impossible...

My take is that there was no evolution. Ur right, its all or nothing. There is no concrete fact that evolution happened. Yes OK.. there seems to be some "evidence" that it did occur but you can't piece it together and say for sure that it did happen.

the part with the least facts are that of creation though

Originally posted by finti
the part with the least facts are that of creation though

Originally posted by Mr Brightside
I tell you! The more i hear you atheists it convinces me that atheism is an organised death cult!

Originally posted by debbiejo
Really???..I thought it was mainly the religious that's more responsible for most of the wars and turmoil in this world. Large and small scales.

I don't know, but the jealousy of one man (Hitler) created the death of many Jews, and others.

In it's own way atheism is a religion, and one where it's only morals lie on the most powerful HUMAN.

Originally posted by Mr Brightside
I don't know, but the jealousy of one man (Hitler) created the death of many Jews, and others.

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Originally posted by Mr Brightside
How do you know he didn't do the things? Did you see him yourself? Did you ASK him?

Yet i still don't understand how Fish 'evolved' into mammals or the like when mammals have a double circualtion but fish have a single circulation, it has got to be all or nothing... even the science books at school say it is impossible...

Because it contradicts the OT... 😕

Find me all the OT verses that prove jesus was supposed to come to earth die on the cross ressurect and have second coming because the jewish messiah is way different from that...prove he's "The messiah" by scriptures and correct information?!