FF4 VS these 4 xmen i chose

Speed of thought processes is one thing, reactions is another.

Are there any precedents of either of them reacting like this, I can't think of any from the top of my head: however I know Sue is generally pretty well protected.

Originally posted by demigawd
I can't see how Sue could get a shot off before Jean can. All Jean has to do is think, "Off" and Sue is off. Sue, on the other hand, would have to target Jean, create a bubble around her, and do something with the bubble to take her out right away (but in a manner that's still non-lethal). Too much thinking. Jean wins. And if Jean wins, the X-men win.

Just like in X4 last month when IW took down emma frost and said "your powers rnt the only ones that operate at the speed of thought"?

but know emma is no where near jean in power...

i know....its not power we r talking about...just the principles of their powers...i think it demonstrates that both of them operate at the speed of thought...it just came down to the fact that IW is more accustomed to battle than Emma, which is probably what it would come down to for IW and Jean...they r both crazy powerful and have both hurt Celestials. So i think it would just come down to skill and experience.

Hell no! Jean and Emma aren't on the same level. Think about it, Jean thinks, shit happens; Sue thinks, a bubble forms, and shit happens; Jean's province is the mind people! All she has to do is think, sue has to form a bubble.

i guess u missed the point...so ur saying Jean's powers work faster than Emma's? cuz IW already proved she was faster than her.

colosus would go straight for thing
the rest all fight tll either iceman freezes their blood or HT uses nova

this would be a really intresting fight i think it would break down like this
colossus vs thing the two strong guys
iceman vs human torch the temp extremes
jean vs invisible woman arguably the two most powerful of the groups
nightcrawler vs mr. fantastic

please...don't bring this thread back...it's ruined more lives than hot pockets and crack combined.

Arise...

Wrong one. this is pre-Creshok.

ah....

ye but hey this was the first thread I ever saw!! awesomeness!

X-men vs. FF is probably one of the most sensitive topics on this board. There are probably five or six threads that are all about as long with various combinations of X-men.

well...Id say Iceman and Jean make this team the winning team. Stopping the guys by freezing them in place (stopping moleculer motion), and jean mindraping Sue....or her just mindraping all of them....take your pick

Originally posted by demigawd
X-men vs. FF is probably one of the most sensitive topics on this board. There are probably five or six threads that are all about as long with various combinations of X-men.

Its weird how insecure the X-Men fans get about F4...

im not insecure about the F4...there are a bunch of X-men that they would slap like a red headed step child.....but then there are a few that would present a challenge and could win....like Iceman and Jean...and they just so happen to be in this fight....

Wait you slap Iceman and Jean on here and people at the begining of the thread saying that the FF would win?

How do the ff beat a phoenix avatar anyway?

i dunno...but thats
1) before ppl accepted how powerful Iceman is, and
2) I think that they said jean without Pheonix BUT
3) there arguement was that Sue could block Jeans Telepathy....
however iceman would still freeze them all...
and Jean would mindrape them all...Double four way ko....

Originally posted by Wynndar
Its weird how insecure the X-Men fans get about F4...

Considering how the X-men dominate the FF on threads on boards across the internet, I couldn't possibly see how that's true.

JLA, maybe. Avengers, maybe. Definitely not FF