You keep saying it's not relevant to the fight but you still don't have any reason to say why you think that, except for your misinterpretations of whatever you're looking at in contest of champions. Rogue drained him and there's nothing in the book that says she couldn't.
That aside, All of the other characters that I was referring to were not within that comic that you hate so much. They were in X-men, marvel fanfare, Avengers, etc. Are all of these comics irrelevant too?
"You keep saying it's not relevant to the fight but you still don't have any reason to say why you think that, except for your misinterpretations of whatever you're looking at in contest of champions. Rogue drained him and there's nothing in the book that says she couldn't."
This is all coming down to you not being able to find it. Because it's there. You either have the comic and ignore it or you just don't have the comic.
With regards to the others, no they are not. It's an impressive feat but you've still gotta consider who she's fighting. Just coz she did it to them, you're assuming she will definately do it to Hulk.
-AC
i still give her a fightiing chance. if she drains the hulk the madder he gets he'll just be replacing continually what she took. she only spazzed out when absorbing juggernaut cuz it was magical force. if she fights him with her bare hands or with more skin exposed everytime he touches her he would get absorbed. thats something neither of them wouldl be able to control.
so i say she at least fights convincingly b4 she gets taken out
Everyone is saying "I give her a shot...........although she'll lose." Seeing as this thread is about who would win, why does it matter if she would fight well or not? The result is a loss for Rogue if she's fighting the Hulk, regardless of how hard she tries.
More to the point:
If skin contact is all it takes, why hasn't everyone who smacked her in the face, been drained? Is her face no longer made of skin?
-AC
"'This is all coming down to you not being able to find it. Because it's there. You either have the comic and ignore it or you just don't have the comic."
I'm saying Rogue can win. She drained Hulk's power in contest of champions #5 already, we've both seen that. Tell me an issue # and page # in contest of champions where it says that Rogue draining hulk could never happen or else just let that pathetic argument go. You just can't accept the fact that hulk lost a fight to a character you can't stand.
In x-treme X-men Rogue uses Hulk's power along with the powers of others she has absorbed in the past. She wouldn't have been able to do that had she not absorbed Hulk's power at some point in time.
idk maybe the writers havent figured out that error in continuity. 😆
but everytime remy tries to kiss her she warns him what would happen if he does. and every other time somebody touches some part of her body. plus i was thinking of when that guy in amazing spiderman who was trying to eat peter. peter was whaling on him and he was just absorbing his life force. thats what i think rogue would do.
got this from marveldirectory.com Rogue possesses the superhuman ability to absorb the memories, knowledge, talents, personality, and physical abilities (whether superhuman or not) of another human being (or members of some sentient alien races) through physical contact of HER SKIN with the SKIN of the other person.
i dont understand why there is this perception that rogue can only absorb thru her handsconfused1
"I'm saying Rogue can win. She drained Hulk's power in contest of champions #5 already, we've both seen that. Tell me an issue # and page # in contest of champions where it says that Rogue draining hulk could never happen or else just let that pathetic argument go. You just can't accept the fact that hulk lost a fight to a character you can't stand."
Contest of Champions again. It seems you are just clinging to it because it's the one thing you have left. It's not relevant, it was gonna be that way regardless. Not my words SBO, the words of Chris Claremont. I CAN stand Rogue, nothing against the character. Just think she's a bit random. However, it doesn't change the fact she's no match for Hulk and the only thing you have to cling to is a sketchy, factual storyline vehicle by the comic writers own admission.
"In x-treme X-men Rogue uses Hulk's power along with the powers of others she has absorbed in the past. She wouldn't have been able to do that had she not absorbed Hulk's power at some point in time."
You're again missing the point. Contest of Champions not withstanding, if she absorbed Hulk's power, so what? She cannot do anything with it that will get her the win. It's the crucial thing you are over looking. She is doesn't have the capacity to drain him to the point of returning to Banner and to even drain him she has to grab onto him, which realistically, considering the characters, is not likely.
"i dont understand why there is this perception that rogue can only absorb thru her hands"
Because she's only absorbed through her hands and when people smack her in the face, nothing happens. Might be why.
"but everytime remy tries to kiss her she warns him what would happen if he does. and every other time somebody touches some part of her body. plus i was thinking of when that guy in amazing spiderman who was trying to eat peter. peter was whaling on him and he was just absorbing his life force. thats what i think rogue would do."
Hulk isn't gonna be kissing, massaging or hugging her though. She cannot absorb through being punched because she's been punched before and nothing has happened has it?
A little thing you should consider: She wears gloves and the emphasis is that to absorb, she must remove them. She doesn't stroll around with a face mask so it's deduceable that she cannot absorb by taking punches to the face and even if she could, she isn't gonna last long enough to use it.
This is all neither here nor there.
Is Rogue capable of actually claiming a victory over the Hulk? No.
-AC
Hmm... She should drain people when they hit her in the face, but I guess it's too complicated to emphasize that all the time or it's forgotten that's it's beyond the hands (i.e. Shadowcat pressed her face upon Rogue's when they were facing Nimrod).
Characters I can think of that automatically reacted strictly from the hands were Styx, Carrion, Famine, Scrambler, Bloodscream, Xion, etc.
"Hmm... She should drain people when they hit her in the face, but I guess it's too complicated to emphasize that all the time or it's forgotten that's it's beyond the hands "
The reason why they say her and Gambit cannot kiss is because it's a good twist on the relationship. If someone punches her in the face, the contact is not gonna be long enough for her to get ANYTHING of use from it. If Hulk punches her in the face, the only thing she's getting is possible death. Even if she took her gloves off and PUNCHED Hulk, the contact isn't there. No point saying "she should..." do anything, can she? No.
-AC
"Contest of Champions again. It seems you are just clinging to it because it's the one thing you have left. It's not relevant, it was gonna be that way regardless. Not my words SBO, the words of Chris Claremont. I CAN stand Rogue, nothing against the character. Just think she's a bit random. However, it doesn't change the fact she's no match for Hulk and the only thing you have to cling to is a sketchy, factual storyline vehicle by the comic writers own admission."
Actually you're the one who needs to counter the fact that Rogue absorbed hulk and knocked him out already not me. The fact that this happened makes your whole argument null and void. You still didn't give me a page # to see where your phantom confession by Chris Claremont exists.
"You're again missing the point. Contest of Champions not withstanding, if she absorbed Hulk's power, so what? She cannot do anything with it that will get her the win. It's the crucial thing you are over looking. She is doesn't have the capacity to drain him to the point of returning to Banner and to even drain him she has to grab onto him, which realistically, considering the characters, is not likely."
Who says she has to drain him until he becomes banner? She only needs to weaken him enough to to knock him out and he can be knocked out while in hulk form.
"The fact that this happened makes your whole argument null and void. You still didn't give me a page # to see where your phantom confession by Chris Claremont exists."
Quite a telling remark. If you own the comic then page number isn't relevent. Such detail would only be needed if you were searching for the info somewhere else. You mentioned Contest of Champions, did I ask for page numbers? No. What did I do? Pick the comic up and read it.
"Who says she has to drain him until he becomes banner? She only needs to weaken him enough to to knock him out and he can be knocked out while in hulk form."
Weaken him enough to knock him out by draining? She'd have to grab and hold onto him. I don't believe she could do that at all, let alone for long enough.
Funny how you claim you're not clinging to Contest of Champions but the only parts of my posts you can reply to are the ones concerning it.
-AC
I think that maybe her draining stuff has something to do with the amount of time she is in contact with them. Probably like 5 seconds or something, so punches or smacks would not work, but Rogue could lure Hulk into grabbing her by flying and evading him. Eventually he'll get frustrated and just grab her leg or arm. That should give her powers enough time to start draining.