Rouge vs. Hulk

.......I said she can't absorb his specific ability because.....well, she cannot. You disagree? You think it's not illogical? Cool. I know from reading the comics though that she cannot absorb that specific ability so, you're a little out of water. The fact that you cannot see WHY she can't doesn't mean you are right.

"You are saying that this is becoming a forum member versus forum, but you aren't doing anything to stop that. Only 1/9 of your post is about this battle. I'm not saying that I don't make threads into forum member versus things because I do"

Well then why aren't you doing anything to stop it? You are the one who rallies people against me. You are the one attempting to start debates in a comic forum when you admitted you know nothing of comics. Where's the sense? Predicting what can happen in a comic battle is all well and good, but trying to say what WOULD DEFINATELY happen is wrong. You cannot do that if the fight has not happened. None of us are telepaths.

-AC

laytdiplayette: You act as if Rouge can openly henpick what power she absorbs from the hulk, whether it be his healing ability or his infinite strength factor...WRONG...When rouge is in the absorbing process she knows little of anything that is going to happen and whatever power she "temporarily" posesses is a surprise to her...

Like Alpha said, we all know Rouge would lose and lose miserably at that. The Hulk is just out of her league, nuff said. So, according to my knowledge of what happened in the comics up to this point it would seem Rouge has her hands full with one cosmic alien known as Gladiator..

Gladiator outclassed rouge on many occasions while although biased in my opinion, the hulk beat the crap out of Gladiator without breaking a sweat. Rogue needs to grab ahold of a foe in order to initiate the power draining factor and trust me the hulk isn't going to stand there and let somebody drain his strength, he's too wild and aggressive...He'd either end up flinging her off Juggernaut style or hopping 20ft into the air and crashing down upon rouge smashing her 10 ft under ground..

Her blows are irrelevant in this debate because they would merely tickle him as his anger would increase upon every attack.He heals at a rapid rate so if she did manage to drain some power it would come back almost as rapidly as it was depleted..his power dwarfs hers tenfold and one could "HULK BLOW" would floor rogue indefinetly if enough anger and rage is put into it...

This thread is a waste of time, compare rouge to the likes of marvel girl not to someone whom is one of marvels elite..Someone whom survived nukes, healed from being skinned, lifts mountains with letting lose a single fart....In the end...Rouge would die... it would take all the x-men(including rogue) to even make the hulk horny....

Who said I wanted to stop it, I'm saying that don't be talking like you don't do what you are accusing people of. Anyways, I never said that I didn't know anything. If I didn't know anything about comics then I wouldn't be on this forum now would I. You seem to try and say what would definitely happen all of the time. You say she can't, absorb his ability just because its illogical. I don't see how it can be illogical because people absorbing other peoples powers seems illogical in the real world. I don't see how it is any more illogical then anything else that happens in comic books.

".......I said she can't absorb his specific ability because.....well, she cannot. You disagree? You think it's not illogical? Cool. I know from reading the comics though that she cannot absorb that specific ability so, you're a little out of water. The fact that you cannot see WHY she can't doesn't mean you are right."

From what comic did you make this deduction? When she absorbed ms marvel she absorbed all of her abilities, when she absorbed magneto she absorbed all of his abilities, that's the way her power works, she can't pick and choose which abilities she absorbs and neither can you.

And this is the last time I'll bring up contest of champions (maybe) , but if there is actually a statement from the writer in this book that supports your bullsh*t claim that he didn't intend for Rogue to absorb hulk then tell me which page to find it on. I have all of the books but I honestly don't see it.

Okay, I get that she couldn't choose, but it would be either or. Anyways, when she her hands to just brush against him she'll get one or the other. Then It'll be like hulk versus hulk. The Hulk will get angrier attack her some more. Rogue would take some hits, but she'll eventually touch him again, and when she does, she'll get his current level of strength, deja vu.

In the comic didn't the Hulk's father mess with his DNA to speed up his own healing or something. That would be considered a genetic change which is also know as a MUTATION. Why can't rogue absorb him if he is technically a mutant?

"From what comic did you make this deduction? When she absorbed ms marvel she absorbed all of her abilities, when she absorbed magneto she absorbed all of his abilities, that's the way her power works, she can't pick and choose which abilities she absorbs and neither can you."

She, as we've both agreed, has a max limit. Hulk's power lies within his blood, not the gamma energy. Whilst the gamma energy and personality trait would be absorbed, the blood and ability to increase due to emotion would not. Hence why she couldn't gets stronger.

"I have all of the books but I honestly don't see it."

Well you should because it's a blurb-esque section written by Chris Claremont. Either way it is actually there right at the end of the actual story. He put it there because he knew people wouldn't get how Rogue could beat Hulk. It was because he wanted his shitty Shadowcat arc, which failed anyway.

-AC

Gladiator outclassed rouge on many occasions while although biased in my opinion, the hulk beat the crap out of Gladiator without breaking a sweat. Rogue needs to grab ahold of a foe in order to initiate the power draining factor and trust me the hulk isn't going to stand there and let somebody drain his strength, he's too wild and aggressive...He'd either end up flinging her off Juggernaut style or hopping 20ft into the air and crashing down upon rouge smashing her 10 ft under ground..

When did Rogue fight gladiator?

And juggernaut was actually the one who got flung away after rogue absorbed his power. She didn't knock him out, but he wasn't able to mount any defense.

Hulk would fare no better, his powers aren't magical like juggernaut's and Rogue would have an easier time absorbing him.

so, your saying she would get his strength. So wouldn't she just keep absorbing it at different times as he got stronger.

Well you should because it's a blurb-esque section written by Chris Claremont. Either way it is actually there right at the end of the actual story. He put it there because he knew people wouldn't get how Rogue could beat Hulk. It was because he wanted his shitty Shadowcat arc, which failed anyway.

Are you sure you didn't type this into your copy because i don't see anything that says that in mine.

She, as we've both agreed, has a max limit. Hulk's power lies within his blood, not the gamma energy. Whilst the gamma energy and personality trait would be absorbed, the blood and ability to increase due to emotion would not. Hence why she couldn't gets stronger.

It doesn't matter what the source of his power is. Juggernaut's power was originally from a gem and she took that power. Spidey's power came from spider venom in his blood and she took that power. Hulk would be no different.

That seems logical.

"Are you sure you didn't type this into your copy because i don't see anything that says that in mine."

I sure as hell didn't type it into Vic's copy also.

"It doesn't matter what the source of his power is. Juggernaut's power was originally from a gem and she took that power. Spidey's power came from spider venom in his blood and she took that power. Hulk would be no different."

Then why, when She-Hulk gained her powers, did the same thing not happen? That was a DIRECT blood transfer and she didn't gain the emotional strength upgrade power. Why would Rogue get it from sapping energy? She wouldn't. She would take as much as she could and hit a wall. Even then it's nothing Hulk wouldn't be able to deal with in a fight. This is assuming she can actually get to him and drain him long enough to REACH her max. Hulk is a big guy and he'll be able to reach her.

As many nooks and crannies as Rogue has, it's just a mismatch.

-AC

She-hulk isn't rogue....

No but Hulk is Hulk. She-Hulk actually has his blood and didn't inherit the power, which is where it's from.

So just absorbing gamma energy (Rogue's technique) isn't gonna earn it.

-AC

Didn't SBO just say she would absorb both...

oh...

oh wut?

"I sure as hell didn't type it into Vic's copy also."

He's a hulkamaniac too, he probably did it himself. Seriously though, unless you guys have some special edition that i don't have, I don't know what you're looking at.

No but Hulk is Hulk. She-Hulk actually has his blood and didn't inherit the power, which is where it's from.

Rogue doesn't need to take blood to get a power all she has to do is touch and she's got everything her victim has, that's what her power is, that's what it's always been. Spiderman's power is in his blood and she took all of his powers with a touch. She-hulk's power is in her blood, Rogue took it with a touch. With Hulk the same thing happened.

"He's a hulkamaniac too, he probably did it himself. Seriously though, unless you guys have some special edition that i don't have, I don't know what you're looking at."

So the next best thing is to say it doesn't exist? I'm not lying, I know I'm not. I can't speak for Vic but I have the comic and it's in there. Either you don't have the comic or you do and you're not admitting to seeing it. Coz it is there, fact. Why does everything have to come back to who we like? I like the Hulk, he likes the Hulk. You like Rogue, I could say that's why you're ignoring it but I don't because that's stupid. "He probably did it himself." What a load of tripe.

"With Hulk the same thing happened."

Outside of Contest of Champions? Coz inside it's not relevent to this fight.

The answer is no.

-AC

i'm lost now.