Rouge vs. Hulk

You're the one who's completely missing the point here. EVERY comic is planned out in advance, even ones where fans vote on certain aspects of it.

You don't know what the writer was thinking, you don't know if anything was an afterthought or not, I'm pretty sure you're not a mind reader, especially since you don't seem to understand what I'm saying even when I spell it out for you.

I'd love to see a Rogue vs Hulk comic. I think a very credible story could be written where either character was the victor. Just because you're in love with the hulk doesn't mean the character's unbeatable, and that any time he loses to a character you don't like the story is crap.
I like Rogue, but I don't mind seeing her get her ass kicked, a hero that wins every fight they get into would be pretty boring.

'You don't know what the writer was thinking, you don't know if anything was an afterthought or not, I'm pretty sure you're not a mind reader'

Oh, I see what the problem is now. You're arguing on the basis of what you think. I'm talking about what I know.

The writer quite clearly states why the story went as it did, and that any happenings were incidental to that SPECIFIC ending.

Shall we ask him? Oh, no need, he already said. In the comic. Where? In his explanation of the story, at the end.

Yes. He said it. Him. The author.

It's a discredited 'fight', it's not relevant to the thread.

I see absolutely nothing in the book that supports what you claim to "know". Where are you getting these facts of yours?

The fight is as relevant as any other.

He actually says it in the comic SBO.

If you own or have read the comic, you would know this.

It's not up for debate because it's actually in the damn comic.

-AC

Tell me where if you can.

IF you have evidence you should be able to tell me where to find it.

At the end where he explains that regardless of who the fight involved, he already determined Rogue for the win purely because he had an old Shadowcat/Rogue storyline that he wanted to run off the back of it.

Do you actually own the comic? Because I don't know how greater to explain it than that. I'm sitting here reading it.

-AC

I'm looking at it too and I see NOTHING like that in there.

Rogue draining Hulk was not necessary to make the story end as it did, so it's not like the writer had no choice in the matter.

Your argument is flawed.

No one is saying it was necessary.

'The writer quite clearly states why the story went as it did, and that any happenings were incidental to that SPECIFIC ending.'

Who said that? Me, about four posts back, you appear to have conveniently altered it in a vain attempt to drag this out.

You're trying to make it sound as though what happened wouldn't have happened if the writer didn't have a certain ending in mind, but you have no evidence of that whatsoever.

You keep bringing up points that are entirely moot in an attempt to make it sound as though you have a valid argument.

Stop being stupid. How can the point be 'moot', when this thread is concerned with who would win this particular fight? Chris Claremont wasn't concerned with that, so why is it relevant here?...time's up. The answer was, it's not.

The whole comic was ridiculous. Chris Claremont is a lame writer, and the whole exercise was simply to massage his own weird fantasy about the featured characters and his own ego. Do you think he sat and debated about that contest? I thought that particular comic was a piece of trash, which was compounded by his own reasoning behind screwing my expectations of an actual 'Contest of Champions' in favour of 'Finishing Of Old Storylines That No-One Cares About'.

Let's just leave it at my own opinion vs the opinion of you and Chris Claremont, I'm perfectly happy with that.

Continue to use this comic as the basis of why a second rater from the X-Men could beat The Incredible Hulk.

So in a final act of desparation you resort to name calling. Typical behavior of people who see that they've lost an argument and have nothing intelligent left to say.

And if you'd read my previous posts you'd see that this comic wasn't the only thing that I based my opinion on.

Just out of curiousity, when did "stupid" become name calling? You are acting rather foolish in all this SBO, denying factual comic info, printed comic info, for no other reason than to try and boost an already floundering argument.

There is nothing to base this fight on other than opinion because the two have never fought properly. If they did Hulk would quite easily win.

-AC

Originally posted by sbo
So in a final act of desparation you resort to name calling. Typical behavior of people who see that they've lost an argument and have nothing intelligent left to say.

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Yeah, all the 'name calling' in my post. Terrible wasn't it.

Incidentally, final acts of desperation are generally resorting to taking the debate away from the point at hand.

The name calling wasn't terrible just juvenile. And it took the debate away from the point at hand.

Great, more of this argueing with off-topic...

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The point at hand from my perspective was that it was a stupid point.

No name calling involved.

Anyway: the match. The purpose of this discussion, and so on.

Yeah we all know who kicked it off don't we?

Either way. Let's get back on topic.

Sbo, seeing as you believe you have other stuff to base your "Rogue would beat The Hulk" theories on, care to share them?

-AC

couldnt rogue just, like, hug hulk?

Yeah she could.

This is a VS Thread though, not dateline.

-AC

I believe Rouge can do something to him. It is not like Juggernaut where if she tried to absorb his powers she goes crazy and nuts and gasses bwahahahaa

I havent read all the pages of this thread so dont kill me!!!