Superman vs. Shazam! ( Captain Marvel)

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Originally posted by Juntai
Mongul is easily on the level of Supes, Marvel, BA, and WW, [In fact, he fought two of those and Batman at the same time in the Crisis.] and you saw Superman surge and said "I could have just killed you right there." in an instant.
Mongul told told Supes "You quell your rage".

Originally posted by batdude123
Under stress, his body absorbs more and more sunlight making him stronger.

I believe Marvel is also capable of summoning strength from the Rock of Eternity (but don't quote me on that as I can't back it up).

Cap'n wins

Originally posted by brainchild81
Cap'n wins

They are equals or maybe Superman wins 5.5/10. Like Validus said, it doesn't matter who we think will win, in the end, DC will always portray them as equals in comics.

But that's not true either. DC will always favor Supes lame ass over Cap'n M (or J'onn). You know how they are. "If you ain't Supes, Bats, or WW.........F**k you!"

Superman will be gone from DC in 2013.

I hope they don't pay those people for stealing their character.

Superman wins this one

what is with the pic of a skool girl??? 😑

The theory of superman's power fluctuates due to stress and rage is nearly fact as, and if you have read any of his comics, it's what the other heroes see in him, and they know he can become so much more if he let himself... but of course he limits himself to stop from hurting others including other heroes.

Will they ever let superman really lose control is the question!?

Am i wrong or its been sold here the notion Superman has never gone all out?

He has, if it doesnt look as impresive as one writter put it its because not all have the same views.

He wasent holding back against BA in the last match. He says so in the beginning.

He wasent holding back against WW.

He wasent holding back against Cap Marvel at least once.

He wasent holding back against Orion at least once.

Its on paper. Its fact.

And dont recall whoever mentioned it, but the Hercules that powers Marvel was the same in the WW universe. At least after War Of The Gods.

Altho from Winnicks news about the new Marvel series, a line will be draw. The gods that power Marvel (Zeus, Hercules, Mercury) arent the same that walk around on WW.

Originally posted by olympian
Am i wrong or its been sold here the notion Superman has never gone all out?

He has, if it doesnt look as impresive as one writter put it its because not all have the same views.

He wasent holding back against BA in the last match. He says so in the beginning.

He wasent holding back against WW.

He wasent holding back against Cap Marvel at least once.

He wasent holding back against Orion at least once.

Its on paper. Its fact.

And dont recall whoever mentioned it, but the Hercules that powers Marvel was the same in the WW universe. At least after War Of The Gods.

Altho from Winnicks news about the new Marvel series, a line will be draw. The gods that power Marvel (Zeus, Hercules, Mercury) arent the same that walk around on WW.

hmmmmmmmmmmm no wrong wrong wrong, now i dont remember excatly were this was stated but it says supes has a mental block on his powers. If you have a mental block on it even if you think your going all out your not really due to that block holding you back over time you might break the block.

So how do we know he hasn't broken the mental block during any of the previously mentioned fights?

because the most powerful in the DC universe have said supes doesn't know yet his potential, if he did realize his potential a few superheroes will be left dead, and supes haters will be screaming and shouting about how this can't be logical, is it me or is comics in a fictional world where anythin can happen, because i swear some people think they are living in a fictional world lol, so yeah he hasn't to be honest, but when he starts to care less and less about the safety of others that mental block will break and he'll be unleashed full on, proper big bang, kick ya in the nuts, f*cked your mother, slap across the ass, fighting crazy on everyone who apposes him.

Anywho, whatever is going on its gonna be awesome when they bring up his power levels again. (or unleash him as it were)

Originally posted by MattDay
because the most powerful in the DC universe have said supes doesn't know yet his potential, if he did realize his potential a few superheroes will be left dead, and supes haters will be screaming and shouting about how this can't be logical, is it me or is comics in a fictional world where anythin can happen, because i swear some people think they are living in a fictional world lol, so yeah he hasn't to be honest, but when he starts to care less and less about the safety of others that mental block will break and he'll be unleashed full on, proper big bang, kick ya in the nuts, f*cked your mother, slap across the ass, fighting crazy on everyone who apposes him.

Anywho, whatever is going on its gonna be awesome when they bring up his power levels again. (or unleash him as it were)


So because he didn't kill Orion, Black Adam, Wonder Woman, or Captain Marvel, that means he had a mental block?

He didn't care about the safety innocent civilians when he fought Wonder Woman. He even said so himself when he had a flashback of the fight.

Originally posted by Accel
So because he didn't kill Orion, Black Adam, Wonder Woman, or Captain Marvel, that means he had a mental block?

He didn't care about the safety innocent civilians when he fought Wonder Woman. He even said so himself when he had a flashback of the fight.

Not really like i said i cant remember were i have read it but if indeed he does have a mental block even if he believes his giving it his all his not necessarily doing that based on the fact the block is a mental aspect.

Originally posted by olympian
Am i wrong or its been sold here the notion Superman has never gone all out?

He has, if it doesnt look as impresive as one writter put it its because not all have the same views.

He wasent holding back against BA in the last match. He says so in the beginning.

He wasent holding back against WW.

He wasent holding back against Cap Marvel at least once.

He wasent holding back against Orion at least once.

Its on paper. Its fact.

And dont recall whoever mentioned it, but the Hercules that powers Marvel was the same in the WW universe. At least after War Of The Gods.

Altho from Winnicks news about the new Marvel series, a line will be draw. The gods that power Marvel (Zeus, Hercules, Mercury) arent the same that walk around on WW.

Not pulling punches and going all out are different in a sense. Superman DID NOT EVER go all out against Black Adam.
There's a difference of say, in a fight--- not pulling my punches against you, and showing you how well I can jab...... as opposed to tackling you and slamming your face into the concrete 350 times with all my 210 pounds, plus momentum.

How many of those fights you named was Superman even in control???
Through the course of the Crisis and leadup, he was influenced by Maxwell Lord and Psycho Pirate. Eclipso against CM..
He wasn't exactly fighting as Superman would, in fact, his whole mentality was off when he fought Diana. He thought Manchester Black killed Lois, and didn't act a thing like that.

Against BA?
As soon as Supes said he was going to end it.. . suddenly someone didn't want to try going tangling anymore. Supes even gave the comment that leads one to believe he was about to drop BA in one shot.

Pretty sure nobody can drop Black Adam in one shot. That's a hell of a lot of faith in Superman to believe that one.

not even sbp managed that particular feat. or does everyone think sbp was holding back too . . .? 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Validus
Pretty sure nobody can drop Black Adam in one shot. That's a hell of a lot of faith in Superman to believe that one.

Well superman isnt known for Bullshitting so if he said blackadam would have gone down from that moon punch then he would have.

Originally posted by sexyking
Well i superman isnt know for Bullshitting so if he said blackadam would have gone down from that moon punch then he would have.

Superman never said he would go down with the moon punch.

Originally posted by leonidas
not even sbp managed that particular feat. or does everyone think sbp was holding back too . . .? 😖hifty:

Well i am sure if sbp had pelted him full on in the face he wouldnt have gone down.

He would have died. 😉