Superman vs. Shazam! ( Captain Marvel)

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Originally posted by carver9
JLKING, you are a dc fanatic. How about you look at the Eclipso fight where Superman body got taken over. Superman say a little speech to captain marvel, asking him to kill him and captain marvel backs down.

And I have it

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Darkseid was his superior in strength mostly because of him always holding back. I think Darkseid manhandling Supes and *****-slapping him attest to that fact. I loved his fight with Orion as well, it was exactly how Orion-Darkseid fights should go. Darkseid taunts Orion, Orion surprises him with his skill and strength and after a long brawl Darkseid gains the upper hand but not before commenting about how proud he is of Orion. I've always believed that deep down Darkseid really wishes it could have been Grayven or Kalibak instead of Orion who became a warrior of New Genesis, its clear Orion's the favorite in spite of everything.

Are you referring to the fight where darkseid was trying to take over brainiac?

Originally posted by carver9
JLKING, you are a dc fanatic. How about you look at the Eclipso fight where Superman body got taken over. Superman say a little speech to captain marvel, asking him to kill him and captain marvel backs down.

Go download the issue.


Of course he CAN kill him. They're of comparable power. You can keep believing that Captain Marvel's magic means that Superman loses 10 out of 10 but know that comics disagree with you.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
And I have it

Post the scans so that everyone can see it. Its before they start throwing the ships.

Originally posted by carver9
Are you referring to the fight where darkseid was trying to take over brainiac?

Yes, the one where Superman swore he "wouldn't stop until [Darkseid] is just a greasy smear on [his] fist" That seems like a good indicator that Superman wasn't holding back and brings the question of just why he picked a fight in a crowded city to unleash his full might. Seems like an empty space station that's about to explode anyway would be a great place to cut loose.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Of course he CAN kill him. They're of comparable power. You can keep believing that Captain Marvel's magic means that Superman loses 10 out of 10 but know that comics disagree with you.

I didnt say 10/10, I said cap will win 6/10. Supes is experienced enough to get at least 4 against him and whoever say that cap can pull a 10/10 is a moron.

Originally posted by carver9
He explained why, he always thought of holding back because he seen his surroudings as paper. One powerful attack would kill someone and thats what he fight every day to try not to do.

Darkseid needed a power that he just got to beat Superman. Without that amp Supes would have crushed him

Here's your back up Carver9.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXEy_SciYpo

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yes, the one where Superman swore he "wouldn't stop until [Darkseid] is just a greasy smear on [his] fist" That seems like a good indicator that Superman wasn't holding back and brings the question of just why he picked a fight in a crowded city to unleash his full might. Seems like an empty space station that's about to explode anyway would be a great place to cut loose.

He didnt hold back, thats why he stomped darkseid.

Originally posted by lawest9
Here's your back up Carver9.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXEy_SciYpo

Thank you, I was looking for it but I couldnt find it. Thanks a lot.

he didn't stomp darkseid. he got beat up for most of the fight, and when he got a break, he got his second wind. then darkseid recovered and put him down easily.

the only times irc superman doing well was in the finale of his own show, and when he and orion took on darkseid one after the other.

Originally posted by carver9
He didnt hold back, thats why he stomped darkseid.

Not really. Keep in mind Darkseid had just finished his brawl with Orion which had doubtlessly tired him out. He still managed to dominate most of the fight.

Originally posted by -Pr-
he didn't stomp darkseid. he got beat up for most of the fight, and when he got a break, he got his second wind. then darkseid recovered and put him down easily.

the only times irc superman doing well was in the finale of his own show, and when he and orion took on darkseid one after the other.

Ok, I thought that Supes put darkseid down and had him on the ground defensless.

I'm pretty sure thats what happened because he hit darkseid with a uppercut sending him flying through the ceiling.

Originally posted by carver9
Ok, I thought that Supes put darkseid down and had him on the ground defensless.

I'm pretty sure thats what happened because he hit darkseid with a uppercut sending him flying through the ceiling.

he knocked darkseid through a couple of buildings, then knocked him down in to the street, creating a crater. when he asks if darkseid's had enough, the mad god pulls out an agonizer or whatever it was called, and paralyses superman.

lex is what stops darkseid, not superman.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Not really. Keep in mind Darkseid had just finished his brawl with Orion which had doubtlessly tired him out. He still managed to dominate most of the fight.

It was one of darkseid better fight against Supes but he lost. I agree though, he did toy with him which lead to his defeat.

I dont think Orion fight took any kind of toll on Darkseid because he ended that quickly.

Originally posted by carver9
Ok, I thought that Supes put darkseid down and had him on the ground defensless.

I'm pretty sure thats what happened because he hit darkseid with a uppercut sending him flying through the ceiling.


He did but its not like Darkseid was at full energy. He had just finished a brutal bout with Orion. He also was fighting arrogantly, he wasn't trying to kill Superman he was trying to humiliate him. Why else pimp smack him when he could snap his neck? Or why bother to step on his face and gloat?

Originally posted by -Pr-
he knocked darkseid through a couple of buildings, then knocked him down in to the street, creating a crater. when he asks if darkseid's had enough, the mad god pulls out an agonizer or whatever it was called, and paralyses superman.

lex is what stops darkseid, not superman.

OOOOHHH, you are talking about THAT fight. During the time Darkseid was stomping on superman, Superman was holding back. When superman took the cuffs off, darkseid was defenseless.

He had to use his amp to take superman out and that wouldnt even had worked if superman pressed his attack instead of flying down in front of darkseid.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He did but its not like Darkseid was at full energy. He had just finished a brutal bout with Orion. He also was fighting arrogantly, he wasn't trying to kill Superman he was trying to humiliate him. Why else pimp smack him when he could snap his neck? Or why bother to step on his face and gloat?

I agree, he did toy with him; that was one of darkseid better showings against supes.

Originally posted by carver9
OOOOHHH, you are talking about THAT fight. During the time Darkseid was stomping on superman, Superman was holding back. When superman took the cuffs off, darkseid was defenseless.

He had to use his amp to take superman out and that wouldnt even had worked if superman pressed his attack instead of flying down in front of darkseid.

that's the fight with the world of cardboard speech, though.

Originally posted by carver9
OOOOHHH, you are talking about THAT fight. During the time Darkseid was stomping on superman, Superman was holding back. When superman took the cuffs off, darkseid was defenseless.

He had to use his amp to take superman out and that wouldnt even had worked if superman pressed his attack instead of flying down in front of darkseid.


I wouldn't say he was defenseless. And even then none of Superman's attacks did any damage to Darkseid. In most of their fights Darkseid has a bloody nose and/or lip by the end if not worse but in that fight there isn't a scratch on him. Superman may have been physically stronger but his attacks did nothing.

Originally posted by carver9
But your point is still MOOT, it took TWO punches to drop Supes, TWO.

It doesnt matter if it was magical, none magical, dipped in galactus blood, etc... Its was a punched that Captain marvel can replicate again and again. He two shotted Supes and if it just took two punches I wonder how many it would take on a forum battle.

Your moron powers are off the charts. Let's go over some key points:

1. CM was trying.
2. CM sucker punched him
3. Morrison acknowledged Superman and Magic
4. CM said he got lucky

Then you downplay that and are like, "Wow. CM can do that again and again. Oh no for Superman!"