Philosophía
"The devil made me do it"
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
If you're adamant that there's no possibility that Wonder Woman's own efforts prevented her from being in a position to be knocked into the Sun, then you've assumed your own conclusion.
Your hypocrisy is hilarious, for asking me to consider "possibilities" when you're making up excuses at every step for why the comics presents
clear cut instances of Superman doing
the exact opposite of what you say his intention was, which is to
kill Wonder Woman/Doomsday.
I can just make fun of how your arguments twisted and turned.
You went from:
"Wonder Woman wasn't between Superman and the Sun anymore. She wrestled out of position. That's it."
to:
"OH SHIT THERES THE SCAN SHOWING THE EXACT OPPOSITE RIGHT BEFORE HE PUNCHES HER
...well then, she, wrestled behind him or something!
By teleporting.
Superman did an involuntary 180!
Yeah.
That's it. "
You make up bullshit excuses.
That's what the discussion has been about.
It started from the "Superman saw the kryptonite so he..erm..punched her to Earth instead of the sun because he panicked! RIGHT!" without any kind of argument. Even your meager attempt at an argumentation, with "Well, he reacted to Wonder Woman's attacks during the fight, so he must have seen her moves and thus kryptonite!", once dismissed with the clearly shown within the comic fact that Superman didn't see Diana or the weaponry she used at all, but just Diana's moves translated into Doomsday's (her Tiara was shown as Doomsday's bones cutting him), you kind of just stopped arguing.
And went tangential "But Diana said he wasn't holding back! He said he was gonna kill her. It doesn't matter that he soon said that he wants her/him to SUFFER FIRST in the same panel where instead of delivering the killing strike of PUNCHING HIM IN THE SUN he does the opposite and punches her/him RIGHT BACK TO EARTH. Where, as a matter of fact, Doomsday is also far more formidable because HE'S NOT A NON-FLYER IN SPACE. He said he was gonna kill her and that's it!".
Even when we move on to Superman clearly being in the position to beat Doomsday/Diana to death, while she is unconscious on the floor enough for a whole page of Max Lord talking, your argument is, and I'm literally just copy/pasting here:
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
People talk during fights.
An out for the kill Superman stopped attacking an unconscious, at his mercy Diana/Doomsday because "people talk during fights".
facepalm Just..facepalm
Your argument is based on two things:
1). Superman's initial intention of throwing Diana/Doomsday inside the sun, which he soon reversed, after making it clear, in the same panel, that he wants Doomsday to "suffer first".
2). Superman saying that he tried to kill her (which considering that at that point he was draggin her towards the sun, sure) but then once he got there he punched her/him back to Earth, in the same panel saying that he wanted him/her to suffer first.
That's it.
We have, on panel, Superman sparing Diana/Doomsday from sure death. Twice.
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You're trying to paint this as some kind of "Desperate Superman fan tries to save face from fight" when your arguments are thin, and in contradiction with what the comic showed.
And you know this. That's why you're going on the ridicule "let me show some cropped panels of statements in which it's said Superman is not holding back or out of for the kill, and ignore the other arguments that I know I can't win! Hopefully nobody will see!".
Superman's heat vision was the only one that was downplayed, and even then it was burning her bones, from literally a few moments of exposure.
Meanwhile, he was physically overhwelming to the point where he was breaking her wrist and had her at his mercy, while thinking he fights a completly different opponent. Twice.
Low showing? Right.