See, that is why this smacking rule is nonsense. You have to discipline your child, and smacking is the only way to let them know what is wrong. Reasoning with a child is like trying to tell a 30stone bloke to stop eating.
The truth is you can't find out all these things, and to be quite honest i'm sure police would rather this rule not be in place as it is time consuming, and there are bigger things to deal with.
Originally posted by Time Of Evil
See, that is why this smacking rule is nonsense. You have to discipline your child, and smacking is the only way to let them know what is wrong. Reasoning with a child is like trying to tell a 30stone bloke to stop eating.
As crass as that is, I have to agree. Although not the only way to discipline a child, it is a way that works. Reasoning with a child is, as you say, often futile. Not to mention time consuming and frustrating. Physical discipline, IMO, does the job. But unfortunately there are always going to be people who take advantage of such acceptance, and that makes it almost impossible to draw boundaries 😬
"The man, who cannot be named to protect the identify of the child, admitted assault and said he had gone over the top when he smacked the boy as punishment.
The child told police the pain he felt was "like a cheetah biting him".
The 33-year-old man, from the Broughton area of North Wales, was told by Flintshire magistrates that there had been three offences of assault - three incidents of violence on his own son.
The victim was clearly vulnerable and the defendant had caused injury to him.
The man was jailed for 42 days after he admitted three assault charges and magistrates' chairman Graham Thomas said that it would have been 60 days but for his guilty plea.
The court heard how the defendant and his partner were separated but their two children would stay over with their father on a regular basis.
Prosecutor Justin Espie said the boy and his sister had stayed with their father for a couple of weeks in the summer of last year.
When he returned home, his mother saw bruising to his thighs and lower back and reported the matter to the police.
When interviewed, the boy said his father had smacked him and sent him to bed because he had failed to wipe his bottom properly and he had soiled his pants.
He told police officers that the pain he felt when his father hit him was "like a cheetah had bitten him".
His sister told the police the boy had to wash his own pants and that her father was very angry and had been shouting and saying "are you taking the mick or what?'' to her brother.
A doctor said the bruising was highly suggestive of a non-accidental injury.
Interviewed, the defendant admitted that he had smacked his son on three occasions and had smacked him five times each time.
He believed at the time of his interview that what he had done was lawful and reasonable chastisement.
"But by his guilty plea he has accepted that he went beyond reasonable chastisement," Mr Espie told magistrates.
Defending solicitor Steve Coupe said his client accepted that it was a serious matter but stressed his client had not set out to assault his son."
That's the story.
Opinions?
-AC
He was out of line... but I don't think he's a malicious father, not from the sounds of that. I just doubt he believed that what he was doing would be considered abuse, I can't judge him completely because I'm not a parent. But from an unbiased point of view, the man needs to learn some self control if he wants to stay in contact with his children 😬
in this cae, the sentence was just seeing as how the father has a previous record of abuse on his own son. abuse is very different from discipline. i was disciplined when i was a child.
truth of the matter is time-out don't do sh!t to this kids.
"you're on time out. go to your room where you have a ps2, cable tv, and internet access so you can think about what you did!!!"
yeah, that will work. 🙄
Pfft. I think that if the smack is hard enough to...let's say, make your become mentally unstable, (like being chronically beaten), then those bastards should rot in HELL.
But, as Time Of Evil and Syren already said, using neccessary force to teach a child should not be a crime, so long as it is not taken too far.
Now to the story, I think the kid is already f*cked up, and so he actually LIED about it "hurting like a cheetah bit me"....Pfft, there are ways that people can bruise themselves ya' know....
But then again, maybe it wasn't an overreaction. Then, the father still probably shouldn't have been put in jail for 42 days. That would make him even angrier with the kid, and he might do worse! Man, when I was growing up, my Mom or Dad might give me a few bruises - but I learned my lesson, and didn't do whatever I did that was wrong again. Plus, I was a little $hit man! I almost feel bad that that's all they ever did. And then after, they'd cry and beg me to forgive them...
Originally posted by Clovie
it is wrong..
i mean how could he hit his own child..
i mean how could ppl hit anyone 😑 🙁
Clovah, I refuse to believe you live in a world of pink cotton candy and fluffy clouds. It's perfectly feasible to think a parent could hit their child, just as it's viable that people war on one another. Wake up and smell the violence honey 😬 It doesn't make it right, and I'm not trying to justify it at all, but it's happening and you can't hide from it by simply questioning the motives.