Alpha Centauri
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Bilb,
While you and most parents have an understanding of being one because of the fact that you are, you and every parent I've ever encountered seem to entertain this "You don't have kids, you can't comment on parenting" fantasy. Let me be the first to, *pops*, pop that damn bubble that you've apparantly been living in.
"I stay home with my kids and do my level best to raise them right. I do the counting thing, i do timeout, i take away toys and priveleges & i reward good behavior. But at the end of the day that stuff is generally uneffective. So I spank them when it needs to be done. I dont hurt them."
You spank them but you don't hurt them? Then what use is the spanking anyway? The purpose of spanking is to hurt the kid and as a result deterr them from doing anything else. You do hurt them by spanking them and if you claim otherwise you're either lying or spanking them with a feather duster. Spanking, by your "it doesn't hurt" rationale, is the most inaffective punishment there is because by defintion, the hurt is what makes it effective.
"It is a kids job to push the limits, and it is MY job to make sure they know there are consequences to pushing those limits. Trust me, I'll put my kids up against a shrink's kids who have only ever gotten a talking to any day of the week. And when given a choice as to who is next to you in the grocery store line, I GUARANTEE you would rather have my kids there."
This is why kids do bad at school alot of the time. They associate pushing boundaries with being bad, no matter what boundaries they are. Yes it's your job to teach them that certain things are wrong but it's also your job to be a responsible parent and by striking them I don't see how you're doing so (aka you're not).
-AC