According to the Bible, it is the descendants of Abraham... although any that claim descent from Esau are probably discounted, depending on how you read the birthright thing... that means the people of the twelve Tribes, including Judah and that bit of Benjamin that became the Jews, plus the other ten (well, nine and two halves, to be precise) that made up the kingdom of Israel.... although Jesus graciously said some others would be allowed into Heaven, if they kept the rules, but not is such anb exalted position as the chosen... unless of course St Paul added that bit later to increase his revenue pool....
If there was a God as Christians today would like him you would be right debbiejo but if it was a god like in the NT than all people that belive in jesus and accept his teachings would go, and if you only belive in the OT it would be as BGK said. And if you belive in Allah both groups are screwed I think. But maybe you are a Calvinist and if it was Calvinistic god it wouldn'T matter anyway since their wouldn't be any free will anyway, so only people that are calvinists and rich would go to heaven anyway since wealth would display if you are chosen by god. Soooo.. which god are you exactly refering to? (forgive me for excludin Ra, Jupiter and many more´) Wait what aboot Odin?
^Good point the Jews rejected God, so they are no longer His chosen people, only the believers in Jesus are, with all believing Jews.
We are graphed into the originial tree. There is only 1 group, Not male,female, Jew or Gentile, Only one people! If you believe then you are apart of Abrahams seed (who was Jewish) God went to the Jews first so that they could teach the world, but they were selfish and wanted to exclude everyone. They were to be an example to the world and the gentiles would be added, but instead they killed their Messiah.
Originally posted by debbiejo
^Good point the Jews rejected God, so they are no longer His chosen people, only the believers in Jesus are, with all believing Jews.We are graphed into the originial tree. There is only 1 group, Not male,female, Jew or Gentile, Only one people! If you believe then you are apart of Abrahams seed (who was Jewish) God went to the Jews first so that they could teach the world, but they were selfish and wanted to exclude everyone. They were to be an example to the world and the gentiles would be added, but instead they killed their Messiah.
did the Jews reject god?? Or did they simply refuse to follow any of the hundred or so Messiahs who appeared at the same time as Jesus.... it all hinges on whether or not Jesus was sent from God, or if he, like St Paul, was a charlatan after some fame and fortune....
Originally posted by big gay kirk
did the Jews reject god?? Or did they simply refuse to follow any of the hundred or so Messiahs who appeared at the same time as Jesus.... it all hinges on whether or not Jesus was sent from God, or if he, like St Paul, was a charlatan after some fame and fortune....
What other Messiahs who appeared at the same time. examples please. ??
The Jews did reject their Messiah..The Pharasis wanted to keep the people under their power..They would lose it if the people chose the Messiah..So really it was the Jewish leaders who turned the people against Christ, and the people Listened to what those leaders said, though not all of them.
Only according to the bible.... other, non biblical evidence shows that there was a bit of a power struggle between the two, with disciples jumping ship, harsh words etc... after the death of John, the Jesus faction jumped out, started the "John was preparing the way" thing and attempted to recruit his followers... up to the second century (and later, if some of the tales of the Templars are to be believed) there were still non-Christian John followers... "Messiahs" were ten a penny in first century Judea.... the Roman writers of the time mention loads of them in connection with jewish unrest... the Nazarene Congregation was simply the most successful, and then only after the original disciples ran out of money, and Saul of Tarsus bailed them out....
Re: Jews or Christians - Who are Gods Chosen People?
Originally posted by debbiejo
In the Christian community there seems to be 2 different views on WHO the chosen people of God are.I have my own idea, but would like to hear some opinions.
No need for any lengthy scriptures, paraphrasing works with me.
Read it again s-l-o-w-l-y
I said in the "Christian Cummunity". 😆