Jews or Christians - Who are Gods Chosen People?

Started by markie7 pages

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
So if Jews are God's people then everyone else is going to hell? And If Christians are God's chosen people then everyone else is also going to hell?

Thats a lot of people going to hell...

No, it depends on what they were chosen for. They think it was to keep the Torah, as guardians of the torah it''s strange they don't believe in proselytizing.

Re: Jews or Christians - Who are Gods Chosen People?

Originally posted by debbiejo
In the Christian community there seems to be 2 different views on WHO the chosen people of God are.

I have my own idea, but would like to hear some opinions.
No need for any lengthy scriptures, paraphrasing works with me.

The Jews are Gods chosen people even though most of them dont follow Christ. Thats just how its been from the beginning.

Originally posted by Mindship
I'm curious: what do most people think "Chosen People" means?
They think they are choosen to keep the law of moses andd to bring forth the messsiah whenn the time comes. I think they were chosen to keep the law and they have brought forth the messiah.. I realy don't know if they still are the chosen people but I think they are.

Originally posted by Mindship
Hmm. Perhaps I did not phrase the question properly.
It's been my experience that many people (Jewish or otherwise) interpret "Chosen People" as meaning one of privilege, God's favorite.
However, nothing could be further from the truth. It means, if anything, a people burdened with additional responsibility: setting the example of how people should behave, particularly how people should treat one another, with kindness and respect.
Any group of people would have done: in God's eyes, ancient Hebrews were no more (or less) deserving of grace than any other people. It was just that, since God had a Plan, someone had to be "it."
So he just said eeny meeny miny mo... you're it? I think it had more to do with the covenannt of Abraham.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I don't think Barabus was one...I thought he was a rebel leader.
He was but that is what they wanted at that time. I think that was one reason judas betrayed jesus.

Originally posted by markie
So he just said eeny meeny miny mo... you're it? I think it had more to do with the covenannt of Abraham.

Absolutely. But why did He make the covenant with Abraham, so that his seed would be the "light unto nations?" Abe was a righteous dude, but no more deserving of God's grace than anyone else in town. He wasn't already so special that this is why God picked him. God picking him made Abraham special.

God has an agenda, certain things have to get done. You get a bunch of tools to do the various jobs--doesn't mean one tool is "better" than the others. It's just best for that job.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I don't think Barabus was one...I thought he was a rebel leader.

although there is evidence to suggest that Barrabus and Jesus were one and the same.....

Originally posted by big gay kirk
although there is evidence to suggest that Barrabus and Jesus were one and the same.....

That would make sense to me.

Originally posted by Mindship
Absolutely. But why did He make the covenant with Abraham, so that his seed would be the "light unto nations?" Abe was a righteous dude, but no more deserving of God's grace than anyone else in town. He wasn't already so special that this is why God picked him. God picking him made Abraham special.

God has an agenda, certain things have to get done. You get a bunch of tools to do the various jobs--doesn't mean one tool is "better" than the others. It's just best for that job.

Though this is a common theme in myth stories.

Originally posted by markie
No, it depends on what they were chosen for. They think it was to keep the Torah, as guardians of the torah it''s strange they don't believe in proselytizing.

I had read somewhere, a long time ago, that because Judaism is not a proselytizing faith, that Maimonedes considered Christianity and Islam to be the proselytizing arms of Judaism, a means of making the world aware of the One and Only True God.

Of course, I would imagine that he did not exactly approve of their methods over the centuries.

According to tanakh ( hebrew bible ) the choosen people of YHWH are those who are part of his covenent, to be part of his covenent you must be circumcisioned and abide by his laws, Christians claim that there belief in jesus makes them choosen but there are many people throught jewish history that have claimed to be "THE MESSIAH" and example is Sabbetai Zevi.

i think the Jews are God's chosen ppl but i dont think that means the catholics, christians, etc... are destined to hell idk just my idea i guess we'll never know till we die or w/e ya'll believe

Originally posted by stop_sign
i think the Jews are God's chosen ppl but i dont think that means the catholics, christians, etc... are destined to hell idk just my idea i guess we'll never know till we die or w/e ya'll believe

Christians believe jesus is "the messiah" despite he never fulfilled one messianic prophecy If people would actually read the bible they would see this...

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Christians believe jesus is "the messiah" despite he never fulfilled one messianic prophecy If people would actually read the bible they would see this...

I tell Christians that all the time, set down and read the bible from cover to cover, I did. 😱

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Christians believe jesus is "the messiah" despite he never fulfilled one messianic prophecy If people would actually read the bible they would see this...
According to Christians he did fulfill many prophecies.

I'm trying but it's sooo long but It's cool story though love it.

Re: Jews or Christians - Who are Gods Chosen People?

Originally posted by debbiejo
In the Christian community there seems to be 2 different views on WHO the chosen people of God are.

I have my own idea, but would like to hear some opinions.
No need for any lengthy scriptures, paraphrasing works with me.

There is no God shock

How do you know?

Re: Re: Jews or Christians - Who are Gods Chosen People?

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
There is no God shock

What if the universe was alive with an alien intelligence, could you call that God?

Re: Re: Re: Jews or Christians - Who are Gods Chosen People?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What if the universe was alive with an alien intelligence, could you call that God?
I would call it an Alien intelligence