According to Scripture God is neither good nor just.... he is jealous, and definitely plays favourites.... and if you actually read the Bible (and I mean a proper one, not the heavily expurgated "feelgood" version like the Good news bible...)you will find, in Isaiah, if I remember correctly, "Good and evil, I created them both..." straight from the Deity's own mouth...
According to Scripture God is neither good nor just.... he is jealous, and definitely plays favourites.... and if you actually read the Bible (and I mean a proper one, not the heavily expurgated "feelgood" version like the Good news bible...)you will find, in Isaiah, if I remember correctly, "Good and evil, I created them both..." straight from the Deity's own mouth...
God does play favorites, to the ones who are the most loyal to him. As to being jealous, its insulting to have people worshipping fake Gods. As to creating evil, what kind of evil is being spoken of?
Whats the context?
Originally posted by finti
technically you dont know whats correct you can only believe, I say couldnt
But your statement is only based on your own speculation. It never says in the bible that he couldnt control his creation, only that he didnt want to. So, that isnt in accordance with what you are saying.
Not doing and cant do are two different things.
Originally posted by finti
does it say that this god didnt want to control the angles, many use the excuse that I dont want to do it when the fact is they cant do it
Yes it does say that Satan is under God's sovereignty. He can only do what God allows him to do. It says that all are under his sovereignty.
Originally posted by Mindship
I'm curious: what do most people think "Chosen People" means?
Hmm. Perhaps I did not phrase the question properly.
It's been my experience that many people (Jewish or otherwise) interpret "Chosen People" as meaning one of privilege, God's favorite.
However, nothing could be further from the truth. It means, if anything, a people burdened with additional responsibility: setting the example of how people should behave, particularly how people should treat one another, with kindness and respect.
Any group of people would have done: in God's eyes, ancient Hebrews were no more (or less) deserving of grace than any other people. It was just that, since God had a Plan, someone had to be "it."
Re: Jews or Christians - Who are Gods Chosen People?
Originally posted by debbiejoews are bbut I don't know why.
In the Christian community there seems to be 2 different views on WHO the chosen people of God are.I have my own idea, but would like to hear some opinions.
No need for any lengthy scriptures, paraphrasing works with me.
Originally posted by big gay kirkCChhosen people ddoesn't necessarilyy imply an exhaulted status, at leaast the jews don't think it does.
According to the Bible, it is the descendants of Abraham... although any that claim descent from Esau are probably discounted, depending on how you read the birthright thing... that means the people of the twelve Tribes, including Judah and that bit of Benjamin that became the Jews, plus the other ten (well, nine and two halves, to be precise) that made up the kingdom of Israel.... although Jesus graciously said some others would be allowed into Heaven, if they kept the rules, but not is such anb exalted position as the chosen... unless of course St Paul added that bit later to increase his revenue pool....
Originally posted by fintiNeither one are, that's why he said muslims are just as much a part as the jews. Some jews consider islamm closer to juddaism then christianity because muslims don't believe in the trinity and they supposedly follow the Noachide laws.
eh ok .............actually how are they(jews/muslims) just as much part of the chrisitan community