Jews or Christians - Who are Gods Chosen People?

Started by eleveninches7 pages

If non-jews and non-christians are NOT god's people, then does that mean that he has no authority over them

what the hell are you babling about?

No it doesn'T, youzr sig is duisgusting by the way, she's dead man, ****ing DEAD.

But since there is no god he has no authority aboot non-christians and non-jews and all the rest.

I wanted to get a Christian perspective because of the different views with dispensations. One view says that the Jews are Gods chosen people and in the end they will all come to except the messiah. They will rebuilt their temple, and start sacrifices and then become believers. That's the dispositional view.

The older view is that in Dan. 9, the sacrifices that will be put to an end has already happened, not future. They stopped when the Messiah was crucified. There would be no purpose for the sacrifices to be started again. Because the Jews rejected their Messiah and kept sacrificing, God had the temple destroyed for good in AD 70. Then he put the dome of the Rock there just to make sure. The temple will never be rebuilt

When the Jews rejected their Messiah, the message went to the gentiles.

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Riddle me this: Honestly, how many Christians would actually positively respond to some nutter saying he was the second coming of Christ?
None.
They'd burn him on the stake for blasphemy, and the Catholic Church would condemn him to Hell. 🙄
Now, as was said in another thread, imagine over 2,000 years ago, when countless people were running around claiming they were the Messiah: Would you believe one nutter over all the rest?
NO.
The Christians, (had they been in the same position), would have demanded Barabus (sp?) to be freed instead of Christ, because they'd be infuriated with all the non-Messiahs going around claiming to BE Messiahs.

Originally posted by ARC Trooper 117
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The Christians, (had they been in the same position), would have demanded Barabus (sp?) to be freed instead of Christ, because they'd be infuriated with all the non-Messiahs going around claiming to BE Messiahs.

Interestingly enough, there is good reason to believe that Barrabus and jesus were the same person... several times in the NT Jesus is given the epithet, "Bar Nagara," or son of the carpenter.... as "Carpenter" was 1st century slang for a rabbi, or teacher, it is quite probable that Jesus would also be known as "Bar Rabbi..." Latinise that, and it becomes Barrabus.... also, may I point out that the supposed "custom" of freeing a prisoner for Passover actually didn't exist.... can you imagine the Romans freeing a dangerous criminal to appease a people they saw as intolerant troublemakers.... especially an especially intolerant and bloodthirsty authoritarian roman like Pilate...??

Originally posted by ARC Trooper 117
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Riddle me this: Honestly, how many Christians would actually positively respond to some nutter saying he was the second coming of Christ?
None.
They'd burn him on the stake for blasphemy, and the Catholic Church would condemn him to Hell.

Don't I know it! All I get is abuse from the Xian factions of our merry ole world! They think I'm some kind of prankster! So what if I'm down wid hip-hop, biznitches and blunts!?! That doesn't make me not Jesus! I've had some time to think since my last cruise around the block and I've chilled da fook out and realised it's all about the love below. Check me...Peas.

yeah and those fooking white coated dudes is looking for ya yet again

Originally posted by Bardock42
No it doesn'T, youzr sig is duisgusting by the way, she's dead man, ****ing DEAD.


But she's coming back to life soon

as a mormon

i beleive that the jews are gods chosen people thats why jesus was so intent on teaching them otherwise why wast so much time with the jews only to be killed.

also you dits dont cusee cause it rude anoyin and dumb or put porno graphic images on the fourum.

beleive that the jews are gods chosen people thats why jesus was so intent on teaching them otherwise why wast so much time with the jews only to be killed.
ehh........... you really thought this through 🙄

Jews are God's chosen people. However when they rejected Christ as the Messiah, it opened the door for Gentiles to also be saved....when they become Christians...they are grafted into the tree of life

I agree 😄

Originally posted by Julie
Jews are God's chosen people. However when they rejected Christ as the Messiah, it opened the door for Gentiles to also be saved....when they become Christians...they are grafted into the tree of life

Oh not you too Julie! 🙁

Originally posted by big gay kirk
Interestingly enough, there is good reason to believe that Barrabus and jesus were the same person... several times in the NT Jesus is given the epithet, "Bar Nagara," or son of the carpenter.... as "Carpenter" was 1st century slang for a rabbi, or teacher, it is quite probable that Jesus would also be known as "Bar Rabbi..." Latinise that, and it becomes Barrabus.... also, may I point out that the supposed "custom" of freeing a prisoner for Passover actually didn't exist.... can you imagine the Romans freeing a dangerous criminal to appease a people they saw as intolerant troublemakers.... especially an especially intolerant and bloodthirsty authoritarian roman like Pilate...??

Ah....😕
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So if Jews are God's people then everyone else is going to hell? And If Christians are God's chosen people then everyone else is also going to hell?

Thats a lot of people going to hell...

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
So if Jews are God's people then everyone else is going to hell? And If Christians are God's chosen people then everyone else is also going to hell?

Thats a lot of people going to hell...

Oh no! I'm going to burn in Hell! 🙁

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
So if Jews are God's people then everyone else is going to hell? And If Christians are God's chosen people then everyone else is also going to hell?

Thats a lot of people going to hell...

No....I don't believe that at all....

I think God judges you on what you know, or what you were exposed to.

He is just and would never do anything contrary...If you think other wise then that's a churches teaching, not scripture.

Besides....people don't burn in hell for ever according to scripture. If you think so..then that's a denominations teaching.

He is just and would never do anything contrary
takes us back to Sodom and Gomorrah tale, some just action by your god there