Originally posted by BackFire
Gotcha.But it's still a valid concern over here, you can get sued for doing anything in the good ol' US. You can't blame a person for taking it into account, blame the system for allowing foolish lawsuits, such as suing someone for saving your life.
However, I'd probably still save the guys life, and if he sued me after, simply regret. After all, if someone is stupid enough to almost choke to death in a restaurant, then chances are they'll do it again, hopefully before the trial starts.
And would you validly compare your fear of being sued in that situation with your fear of being killed in the original situation?
I cannot help thinking that any rational analysis puts the fear of death in a far more severe and relevant light.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"Well let us know who you are and where you drink so if we see you being unfairly beaten/murdered, we won't intervene soes to not offend your priciples...."You say that like it'd bother me.
-AC
Dude seriously, as I said, each to their own.
I was alittle late smiling and spelling editing... My opinions principles are my own and I don't impose them on anyone, despite how passionate I can get about these things...Go and be in peace 😉
Originally posted by PVS
fear of losing everything you have is not an instinctive fear?
and what if you have kids to feed?
That's just playing around with definitions. Fear of that is what you might feel if you observed someone nicking all your money.
It would NOT be instinctive to think that when someone is choking in front of you. Not one tiny bit.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
And would you validly compare your fear of being sued in that situation with your fear of being killed in the original situation?I cannot help thinking that any rational analysis puts the fear of death in a far more severe and relevant light.
From what I've heard, being sued can sometimes end up being worse then death!
Jokes aside, no, they're not comparable, but you can't condemn a guy for taking it into account that he may get sued. That's all I'm saying. Blame falls squarely onto the justice system.
Originally posted by BackFire
From what I've heard, being sued can sometimes end up being worse then death!Jokes aside, no, they're not comparable, but you can't condemn a guy for taking it into account that he may get sued. That's all I'm saying. Blame falls squarely onto the justice system.
Well, one of my points under discussion was that the two were not comparable, so thanks for agreeing.
But I still reject the idea that any person could morally think of the risks of being sued when he sees someone dying in front of him and has the power to save him.
Aside from anything else, it would be IMmoral to be sued for that, and that should be on your mind- as you said you would react, BF.
backfire, i live in jersey. that capitol of frivolous backwards lawsuits.
the most famous case happend a long time ago. some guy flips his tractor traier over and the thing is on fire. (on its side) another guy sees this, stops his car, runs over to a burning truck, risking his own life,
lifts the guy out of the truck by his arm, and shortly after the very place the guy was trapped is encinerated.
he gets sued for dislocating the mans shoulder while pulling him out.
not only that, but the scumbag who sued him won the case. just one of many many stories. also several cases where a criminal sues the owner of a house he was robbing, because the dog attacked him, or he fell through the roof, or other nonesense. its a dark part of our culture and we are all taught to fear lawyers as you would the devil.
It's not instinctive. It can't be.
Someone dying in front of me => if I help him I might lose all my money.
It doesn't add up as an immediate thought. There MUST be intermediate stages.
However
Man beating someone up => I might be hurt or killed if I try and stop him
THAT is a one-step thought. It is immediate and can be instinctive.
Furthermore, being sued is part of a construct of Man alone. Being killed is a construct of the natural laws of the Universe. They are programmed into the very base of your soul from birth. Fear of being sued only exists as an intellectual fear in your mind.
It can never be instinctive.