which mutants are omega level??

Originally posted by Disappear
multiple man's powers have acted differently ever since one of his dupes died of the legacy virus, though there's absolutely nothing to suggest he possesses "omega" level potential. he's surely an alpha. same goes for sebastian shaw, though his powers have been more or less the same ever since their introduction.

and if you want to follow up on what madrox's powers might "evolve" into, i'd suggest you pick up the madrox mini-series, and begin picking up the new x-factor book when it comes out this month, and in all the months to come. PAD more than suggests that there's something to jamie's powers, if not his very existence, that neither he nor we have any idea of. should be interesting, especially for apparent multiple man fans like us.

and stormfront, i'm really not sure what you're trying to say there... omegas are classified by their unlimited potential and the fact that their genetics will, at some point, grant them the ability to transcend beyond the limitations of human existence. examples: iceman, kid omega. jean's ever-redefined phoenix connection could possibly be considered a "transcendence," though the beyonder made a point to imply she may "one day" replace the phoenix, also implying her "transcendence" has not fully occurred yet. whether elixir has transcended (highly unlikely) or not yet is immaterial in the argument that he will at one point, as he is an omega.

i forgot what i was trying to say. something aboput how omega level mutants don't have to transcend to be omega.....i think that was it.

to be deemed omega they do not have to have transcended, true. to be deemed omega, they're genetically destined to transcend at some point due to the very nature of their powers, also true. kid omega, elixir, and (apparently) jean were all labeled omegas before they showed evidence of their transcendence; thus, you need not transcend before being marked an omega. however, once it's confirmed that you are an omega, it's also confirmed that you will, at some point, transcend the boundaries of human existence.

Originally posted by Disappear
to be deemed omega they do not have to have transcended, true. to be deemed omega, they're genetically destined to transcend at some point due to the very nature of their powers, also true. kid omega, elixir, and (apparently) jean were all labeled omegas before they showed evidence of their transcendence; thus, you need not transcend before being marked an omega. however, once it's confirmed that you are an omega, it's also confirmed that you will, at some point, transcend the boundaries of human existence.

yes, i know that's what i was trying to say this whole time.

yes. so we're on the same page.

What would you guys rate these guys at I think there Omega level
Exodus (at max potential)
Multipuleman
Sebastian Shaw

what about Exodus isn't like the more people believe in him the more powerful he becomes? Could he be omega. and Also a question about tag. If he touches anyone will they run away. I mean if he got close enough to Galactus could that make big G run away. This doesn't mean he's Omega just could he make anyone run

wait who that kid from pheniox song, I blanking in his name but he was supsoe to be a match for pheniox

Originally posted by Dr.Fate
what about Exodus isn't like the more people believe in him the more powerful he becomes? Could he be omega. and Also a question about tag. If he touches anyone will they run away. I mean if he got close enough to Galactus could that make big G run away. This doesn't mean he's Omega just could he make anyone run

i wudnt say that exodus is omega, nor sebastion shaw or multiple man.

Originally posted by Dr.Fate
What would you guys rate these guys at I think there Omega level
Exodus (at max potential)
Multipuleman
Sebastian Shaw

?? !??

Exodus feeds of psychic energy, I don't think he is omega. Very powerful alpha, though.

What makes Multiple Man omega? He can make clones. That's all.

And Sebastian Shaw can absorb kinetic energy...I would be able to defeat him with electrical weapon or something.

They are all alphas.

Originally posted by wolverine8888
wait who that kid from pheniox song, I blanking in his name but he was supsoe to be a match for pheniox

Kid Omega? yea he was like a Green Phoenix avatar

exodus' has great power, yes, but he "theoretically" derives additional strength from outside sources of psionic energy; including his own strength of conviction, emotional turmoil around him, or other psionic sources such as nate grey and/or cable. he's clearly in the upper echelon of mutants, but i've seen no reason to assume he's an omega.

and tag's power is very basic mind control. to make someone run, he doesn't need to touch them; instead he touches someone else who becomes "it," and everyone he chooses within a certain area is affected by "its" signal, and thus runs away. or runs toward, depending on what signal he decides to make "it" broadcast. since it's mind control, it's easy to assume telepaths would be able to protect themselves, and since galactus has demonstrated telepathic abilities...

and kid omega IS omega, but, like phoenix avatar said, he's not of the same breed of "phoenix" as jean. his powers always were the less conventional telepathic abilities anyway, so he might not even have the same "omega" skill set as other phoenixes, or other telepathic omegas.

shaw can absorb electricity as well, by the by. no idea why.

and when was rachel a confirmed omega? her power template has never been confirmed as the same as her mother's, particularly not after the "omega" classification was made. unless i missed that issue, or something...

confirmed omegas? jean, iceman, elixir and kid omega. that's it. stop asking.

Originally posted by Phoenix_Avatar9
Kid Omega? yea he was like a Green Phoenix avatar

yea, quentin, there's speculation that rachel's an omega since her power stems from being the daughter of Phoenix, toward the evolution of Phoenix potential, and since shes the only one whos exhibited Phoenix power as of yet, she might be handled in a similar yet different way that Jean was. In uncanny when her and bets are in the WHR there are no other Rachels, just past versions so apparently she's unique. Rachel's one of my faves so i hope they handle her differently than Jean

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
We dont even know that Gambit as New Son was an omega because it wasnt actually stated. We're just speculating because of the powers New Son displayed. Therefore we cant say Gambit was an omega in this thread. We just dont know.

Franklin hasnt even been confirmed as an omega so that comment is puzzling. His powers make it very likely from our understanding of what having omega potential entails, but until its stated we cant go around saying he is an omega. Also both Jean and Rachel are confimed omegas. Jean is stated as the ultimate potential/mutation Franklin could never be more powerful.

u heard it from explosive too, he created alternate universes without even knowing or fealing{and yes they were entire universes, no POCKET stuff} pheonix has remade a universe. dont go attackin franklin causes hes shown more than even current pheonix, and cause i like the character. and we dont know of MOST people as omega, didnt u read this thread? its who COULD be omega, n red son destroyed a planet, that is how powerful gambit can become{and it wasnt even stated that red son was gambit's full potential}

btw im wondering, if u think that omega=ultimate mutation and is the end of evoltuion wouldnt that mean that iceman will one day become THE PHEONIX FORCE'S{ur version} equal, how does ur pheonix=god's power theory fit into that, would that be the birth of another GOD'S power if all that u say about pheonix is right? will iceman also become one with the CROWN and god's concionce? and will he also be above LT as u stated pheonix to be?

but there's still no definitive answer as to if rachel is an omega or not. her interactions with the phoenix all occurred during the "retcon" period, and for all anyone knows she derives her powers from the astral plane like every other psi (and like cable and nate grey, also children of the "phoenix."😉 if they decide to make rachel an omega, using the lines of logic you bring up, that's fully reasonable. but until then, there's only speculation as to whether she is an omega, or she isn't.

power =/= omega. all of those feats really don't mean anything when it comes to being an omega, though there are other evidences that suggest at least franklin is one.

to be an omega means you have no limit to your potential within your specified field of existence. iceman has moisture/cold, elixir has genetics, jean and quentin have the powers of the mind/some link to the phoenix force. they're all slated to, at one point in their lives or another, transcend the boundaries of human existence to merge in some way with their new medium (iceman can become living water, ice, or water vapor, quentin became some abstract energy form, jean is implied to become the replacement of the phoenix force...) they don't become one with "god," a concept completely unexplained with the marvel multiverses, they simply will (most likely) become uni- or omniversal abstracts representing their genetic birthmark. that's all we know.

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NOBODY's Omega Level anymore. They're all either human or dead.

Hah!

*cackles insanely*