The Official: "Jedi's get whats coming to them" Thread

Originally posted by Cascador
I disagree...Okay if you give people too much respect they deserve that would make him more arrogant, but he deserved some respect! The only moment when his master gives him a little respect is when Anakin commands the clone pilote to aim above the fule cells. A master to padawan...is a bond like father and son. But Obi-Wan didn't threated him well, cause he never accepted Anakin as a son/padawan cause he was force to take him as a padawan.

he respected Anakin's wishes enough to let him go to Naboo, alone, with Padme. You don't see any big examples of him respecting, or disprecting Anakin, so it's hard to judge.

What's easy to tell is Anakin's blatant disrespect for his master. "Don't worry, I can cut him off," he says as he chases whats-her-name in Coruscant, right after Obi-Wan said not to.

Anakin's got some serious problems with taking an order. Why should the Jedi cater and favour him because of this?

Like I said, the bond of padawan and master is like father and son...so if that never worked...a son has problems taking orders from a stephfather he almost has no connection with...that explains why Anakin is so stuborn. Did Obi-Wan allow Anakin to go to Naboo? I don't think so...he knows of the bond he has with Padmé, he was probably ordered or volunteered to escort her back.

padawan = learner..apprentice... if anakin can't understand that thats his problem no one elses

Originally posted by Malic Clanorian
padawan = learner..apprentice... if anakin can't understand that thats his problem no one elses

Originally posted by Cascador
Like I said, the bond of padawan and master is like father and son...so if that never worked...a son has problems taking orders from a stephfather he almost has no connection with...that explains why Anakin is so stuborn. Did Obi-Wan allow Anakin to go to Naboo? I don't think so...he knows of the bond he has with Padmé, he was probably ordered or volunteered to escort her back.

Anakin was ordered to escort Padme. Obi-Wan, however, had ultimate control of what Anakin did. Fill in the blanks. Despite what you say, Obi does respect Anakin, and is fully aware of he is capable of.

On the other hand, he IS the master...and he needs to make sure Anakin remembers that.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Well it was obviously made everyone else's problem considering how as you say his 'inability to understand' the role of Padawan turned out in the end.

im talking about his attitude..if he can't understand his role as a padawan then thats his problem its not obi wan's fault he's following the way of the jedi like it has been for how ever many years..

I just think Anakin was a stupid little brat that had no respect. Darth is pretty cool though.
The kid was some slave the Jedi gave him a future they treated him as an equal......but oh well he couldn'T adapt to it so he went for the dark side, surely not the Jedis fault . They maybe could have stopped it if they gave him a master title (which he obviously didn't deserve) but he obviously didn't deserve that....they just kept to the rules of the Jedi.

And whats your anger aboot Mace what did he do wrong?

Originally posted by Malic Clanorian
im talking about his attitude..if he can't understand his role as a padawan then thats his problem its not obi wan's fault he's following the way of the jedi like it has been for how ever many years..

sorry but I disagree that Obi-Wan shows enough respect to Anakin. Anakin did what was requested of us. Protect the Senator. The concequences of him going to Tatooine is the lack of parenthood he missed. If Obi-Wan was more like a father to him, he would focus less on his mother and accept his destiny as a Jedi. Obviously Obi-Wan didn't taught him that very good! The fact that he tried to save him, was the respect he had for his master, but how did Obi-Wan react? With a sarcastic joke...never suspect something like that from a Jedi Master! Again less of respect and motivation he gave to him. It's not his fault he failed in the droid factory. He was overwhelmed.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Obi Wan has, in my opinion overestimated himself as a master whe it came to Anakin.

Well I don't think Obi-Wan actually thought that he was such a good master....but he did it because of Qui-Gon....but I agree the Dark Woman would hav e been a far better teacher for Anakin.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Obi Wan has, in my opinion overestimated himself as a master whe it came to Anakin.

yes i agree..the burden of anakin should not have been put on a new master...

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Obi Wan has, in my opinion overestimated himself as a master whe it came to Anakin.

And he admits that in ep VI!

Originally posted by Cascador
And he admits that in ep VI!

but the fact still remains that anakin should have knew his role...should have learned...and followed commands like everyone else...i think there biggest problem was telling him he was the chosen one...no wonder he wanted jedi master so quickly...

Originally posted by Malic Clanorian
but the fact still remains that anakin should have knew his role...should have learned...and followed commands like everyone else...i think there biggest problem was telling him he was the chosen one...no wonder he wanted jedi master so quickly...

I don't know if he knows he's the chosen one...I think he doesn't know...but of course he knows what he's capable of! Did Obi-Wan scream that as a reminder or is he telling the truth for the first time. I'm not sure if he knows about all that!

edit: oh yeah they tell him in ep I, forgot about that lol, but I don't think he knows what that means! The fact that he knows he's the chosen one wouldn't be a big deal if he didn't know what the prophecy is.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well I don't think Obi-Wan actually thought that he was such a good master....but he did it because of Qui-Gon....but I agree the Dark Woman would hav e been a far better teacher for Anakin.

Yes they deserve, especially Mace.

I am so glad he is dead.He is IMO the worst(besides jarjar) star wars character.

Originally posted by Cascador
oh yeah they tell him in ep I, forgot about that lol, but I don't think he knows what that means! The fact that he knows he's the chosen one wouldn't be a big deal if he didn't know what the prophecy is.

lol im sure in episode 2 hes smart enough to go into the jedi library and look it up lol

Well yes he said that....but on the other hand he didn't have much choice...he might have thought that it would work but well it didn'T

Originally posted by Dart Saber
Yes they deserve, especially Mace.

I am so glad he is dead.He is IMO the worst(besides jarjar) star wars character.

in a sith's eye yes..but in a jedi's eye no...hes the only one that tried stopping anakin from being taught, or gain rank...and hes the only one that came out and said he doesn't trust him...so from a siths p.o.v. he tried to spoil it for anakin...but from a jedi's p.o.v. if they didn't train him then they wouldn't all die...but then that would screw up the entire trilogy lol

Originally posted by Dart Saber
Yes they deserve, especially Mace.

I am so glad he is dead.He is IMO the worst(besides jarjar) star wars character.

I have a question. Why do people have it in for Mace Windu so much!?