The Official: "Jedi's get whats coming to them" Thread

Started by Darth Plegueis7 pages

From a certain point of view, the Jedi are actually working for a dark lord of the Sith (as Generals in an army HE created for specific nefarious reasons).

But the chosen one was supposed to bring peace or balance to the force. That WASN'T Anakin....I think what Qui Gon was sensing was the part of Luke that was in Anakin, and that Luke was the chosen one foretold in prophecy.

no George said Anakin is the chosen one and he brings balance in the end but he couldn't have done it without his son since he is the one who brought him back to the light side

Oh, okay, I didn't realise that GL actually confirmed Ani as the chosen one.

Why do the council think that Anakin is too old to be trained in the 1st place? Ummm ... how old was Luke by the time he even HEARD of the force? He didn't do too shabby.
Why does the Jedi council decide that a guy they "don't trust" and who they deem is "arrogant" ... should be appointed to report on Palps dealings? That makes NO sense. Especially considering that they don't find Palps to be all that honest to begin with. They were using Anakin for thier own purposes as much as Palps was. They get what they deserve. Chop chop chop "AHHHHH!" go the younglings. Hopefully Mace gets decapitated as well.

Originally posted by Darth Plegueis
A ten year old boy who has NEVER had a father figure (sheesh, not even a father for that matter) is trouble in the real world...no wonder that it would be difficult to "choose" between Obi Wan and Palps. You can only partially blame the jedi as Anakin was, in many ways, "damaged goods" by the time he came to them.

Anakin was reckless and power hungry - and the reason he chose Palpatine was because Palpatine knew Anakin's weak spot and he played on it. He was offering him a unimaginable power - which is pretty much what Anakin wanted.

What was the difficult decision?! Obi Wan was the one that acted like some kind of a father figure, while Palpetine acted as an exploiter. If Anakin was less arrogant, less power hungry he would have seen right through Palpatine.

It had nothing to do with ''hard to chose father figure'' but it had to do with Anakin's thirst for power and his arogance.

Anakin is my fave character by far as Anakin and as Darth Vader, but im looking at this from a neutral perspective. It simply isnt all Jedi fault.

Disaster was waiting for the jedi as soon as palps took over as supreme chancellor in TPM. The Jedi were powerless to stop palps...........he even created an army under their noses. Even without Anakin's help/assistance, palps would have still conquered the republic.

Thats why I stated earlier that is really ALL Palpatine.

Originally posted by Darth Plegueis
Thats why I stated earlier that is really ALL Palpatine.

Agreed and after all he is the most powerful sith ever

My comment above seems a little different out of context. I think I put "choose" in quotes BECAUSE there was no choice.

I disagree lil bitchiness, I don't think Anakin had thirst of power. He wanted to learn a power to help people...to stop people from dying, what exactly happens in ep III. He wants to learn a power so he could stop Padmé's death, but that doesn't make him thirsty for power. That way he was seduced by the dark side. But would he form an attachment in the first place with Padmé if he had been taught as a proper Jedi...If he had a better master! No the Jedi speak of the great prophecy about a chosen one bringing balance, what do they do...they put him aside next to an apprentice who just became a knight and misses experiance. Cause he was lucky to become a knight, cause before leaving Coruscant it seemed that the council nor qui-gon believed that Obi-Wan was ready to face the trials. Qui-Gon believed he had no choice to let Obi-Wan face the trials cause he couldn't have 2 padawans

"Anakin! Anakin, NO!!"

Acually GL has said that much of the reason Anakin turned is because he didn't get the initial traing from yoda from he was 1-2 years old or something like that, and never learned to not get attached (bad sentance but i hope you understand)

and luke got trained at his age because it was desperate times and he was the son of the chosen one.

Originally posted by wallalupp
and never learned to not get attached (bad sentance but i hope you understand)

I guess Obi had lots of girlfriends before he became a Jedi...that's why he never learned Anakin to attach...or just the opposite...he never had girlfriends 😛

With Obi Wan there on Tattooine the whole time, you wonder WHY they did not start Luke earlier...they pretty much wait until fate intervenes.
"Watching this one a long time, have I.."

Originally posted by Cascador Cause he was lucky to become a knight, cause before leaving Coruscant it seemed that the council nor qui-gon believed that Obi-Wan was ready to face the trials. Qui-Gon believed he had no choice to let Obi-Wan face the trials cause he couldn't have 2 padawans [/B]

the talk obi-wan and qui-gon waiting for jar jar "There is little more you can learn from me" contradicts your statement, and the council was convinced that Obi-wan deserved the rank of Knight after killing the sith lord that killed qui-gon, a Jedi Master. that became his trials, and he passed

Originally posted by Cascador
I guess Obi had lots of girlfriends before he became a Jedi...that's why he never learned Anakin to attach...or just the opposite...he never had girlfriends 😛
Again: Alone, Desert, 20 years....

the council didn't want 2 train Ani as they all thought he was 2 dangerous. And besides u can't always blame the masters if their padawans turn evil. Dooku was Yoda apprentice and Qui Gon first apprentice turned evil.

Good point.

Originally posted by Cascador
I guess Obi had lots of girlfriends before he became a Jedi...that's why he never learned Anakin to attach...or just the opposite...he never had girlfriends 😛

Well since he probably started his jedi training when he learned to walk, he must have started to look at the girls at a very early age then 😛