The Official: "Jedi's get whats coming to them" Thread

Originally posted by Cascador
But would he form an attachment in the first place with Padmé if he had been taught as a proper Jedi...If he had a better master!

I don't think Anakin could help forming an attachment to Padme. He was taken from his mother whom he was extremely close to and immediately "attached" himself to Padme in Ep. 1(See the carving of the jappor snippet for her) in an attempt to fill that void. That attachment and his inability to let her go partly lead to his particular downfall.

lil bitchiness asked why so many dislike Mace Windu. I think we were meant to. I think the Mace Windu character is supposed to personify Jedi arrogance. His character is meant to show us where the Jedi teachings went wrong IMO.

Originally posted by Cascador
I disagree lil bitchiness, I don't think Anakin had thirst of power. He wanted to learn a power

One way or another he wanted power - for what is complitely irrelevant. He wanted it badly and Palpatine exploited that!

I'm not sure Qui-Gon is being honest at that matter...Jedi are never really honest lol, take a look at obi...Maybe Qui-Gon changed the truth a little so that he could take Anakin as a padawan learner which was in his eyes a priority! And killing a Sith Lord...that's what I mean about being lucky. Jedi trials arent just about lightsaber skills. Obi-Wan was just lucky that Maul was overconfident!

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
One way or another he wanted power - for what is complitely irrelevant. He wanted it badly and Palpatine exploited that!

I agree with that.

I don't see that power thirst in ep1 Anakin.....when would it have started?

Originally posted by Darth Plegueis
I don't see that power thirst in ep1 Anakin.....when would it have started?

when he felt powerless to save his mum. he felt guilty being 2 weak

I think it was obi's idea to hide luke & leia from their father so lets give him credit 4 that.

Originally posted by Master Gerrard
when he felt powerless to save his mum. he felt guilty being 2 weak

hmmmmm what about when he wanted to be the best/fastest pilot in the galaxy in TPM and................he wanted 2 become a powerful jedi 2 free all slaves (inc his mum)

Well, maybe, although those motives are more to benefit others.

I mean, I want to come back to Tattooine and crush Watto and the Hutts.would be more along those lines.

Originally posted by Darth Plegueis
Well, maybe, although those motives are more to benefit others.

exactly! power thirst are not really the right words for this...he seeks power but not for his own, not like a Sith, but he had no choice, to save Padmé he had to become one...that's why you hear as I said on another topic the dual of fates when he goes searching for his mother...he thinks he has the power, he will be a Sith, his fate is sealed! He couldn't save her. He wants power to save the ones he loves...Padmé...so we could also blame her! lol

Yeah, I mean I just don't see any "I want to rule!" going on. I mean, if POWER is his prime motivation, why does he NEVER aspire to overthrow the emperor at any point in the following decades and through the original trilogy???

well I think he couldn't...I don't know precisely what it is, but he needed his son to kill the emperor, he couldn't do it himself. But you are right about what you said that Anakin was never the one who wanted more and more power.

is that y jedi r not allowed 2 love?????

But Sidious was able to kill HIS master...

If Anakin would have helped Mace kill Sidious when the chance was there the clones would have remained loyal to the Jedi. But because the Jedi did not trust him or show him respect he returned those sentiments. Mace went "bye-bye" ... and the slaughter began.

This party REALLY is over!

I think it was more to do with the fact that the jedi council felt he wasnt ready 2 become a master yet. The council believed in his abilities but he needed more training to achieve that 'master' rank. Remember what Yoda said in ESB......he was an powerful jedi but his training was incomplete, Ani always looked 4 the easy paths

I think Palpy is more or less "forcing" Ani on the council for his heroism in defeating Dooku and crashlanding the ship, and their lack of real choice in the matter is causing them angst.