who is better, Vince Carter or Tracy Mcgrady?

i remember reading several articles years ago when vince was coming out of college about how he was the new michael jordan.... no-one will be though. players should only be remembered as themselves. vince carter will be known as vince carter, like shaq is shaq and hakeem is hakeem and so on.

anyone remember the slam cover by scoop jackson claiming grant hill was better than michael jordan? damn.... he coulda been right but he put a curse on g-hill..... the man was a walking triple double.... and co-holder of the 96 rookie of the year award with jason kidd. man he aint had any luck.

I think that by the next Michael Jordan, they simply mean another player that is not a post or point that can dominate the league as Jordan did. The "next Shaq" would be any huge center that physically over powers their opponents by a large margin as Shaq did, but not necessarily to the same style, just similar.

something i also forget to add in my previous post about the article was....the writer admitted that t-mac did not want to play the scottie pippen role to vince's michael jordan role. thats why a lot of canadians should not be forgetting what t-mac did like they are beginning to do, because had he stayed in toronto...who knows....we may have made it to the finals, and won a championship by now. i know you will think that i am an idiot to say that toronto could have won a championship, but with that duo anything can happen. imagine this lineup... alvin williams, jalen rose, donyell marshall, tracy mcgrady, and vince carter( yes...the one that tries).

indeed tanjot... we may have even won a championship with vince and other combinations of players... but he upped town and left. tmac was'nt going to become teh amazing player he is, that was just tmac playing to a high standard and getting the playing time too in orlando... vince WAS the man for toronto. he was everything. the franchise, the future, the present. but all he is now is the past.

Originally posted by darth_royke
he was everything. the franchise, the future, the present. but all he is now is the past.

Pure poetry my good fellow. 😖mart:

cheers dude... much appreciated 👆

Originally posted by darth_royke
indeed tanjot... we may have even won a championship with vince and other combinations of players... but he upped town and left. tmac was'nt going to become teh amazing player he is, that was just tmac playing to a high standard and getting the playing time too in orlando... vince WAS the man for toronto. he was everything. the franchise, the future, the present. but all he is now is the past.

in toronto yes...but vince is still looking to make his mark whereas t-mac is now turning into the vince carter of 2002, playing only 20 games a season.

so what u mean to say is that in say... a years time when tmac has sulked and left houston you'll be loving him as well? 😑 good for you man..... and remember... tmac never came into the league destined as a franchise player.. he was going to become a decent solid athletic type... never the scoring machine he is now. vince's destiny from college was allstar and greatness. he was supposed to be the next iconic player.

Originally posted by darth_royke
so what u mean to say is that in say... a years time when tmac has sulked and left houston you'll be loving him as well? 😑 good for you man..... and remember... tmac never came into the league destined as a franchise player.. he was going to become a decent solid athletic type... never the scoring machine he is now. vince's destiny from college was allstar and greatness. he was supposed to be the next iconic player.

k...i dont know where the first part of that post came from, BUT the point is that t-mac never wanted to build a winning team..but a great reputation as a great player and scorer, right?? so i would say that vince was the better player in the toronto situation at that time and considering he stayed in toronto much longer than mcgrady or any other big name player ever did. will bosh be able to stay in toronto throughout his whole career??? well, we will have to wait and see...

Bosh has signed an extension recently so its looking good for the Raptors. He is their future at the moment.

I always liked Vince Carter more even when he was considered done. I guess that has to do alot with his crazy dunks. He is fun to watch.

Tmac is extremely better and more of a complete player and more capable of just taking over a game like kobe. Tmac is the best SF in the league and thats above Lebron, he just had an injury filled season this year and i feel bad for the guy. Carter is pretty good and hes one of the best at his position but he isnt better then tmac, who has won 2 scoring titles. Carter can jump through the roof but so can tmac, tmac has the better build and hes taller but if your gonna off stats im gonna still have to go with tmac. Carter is a great player but if you was to put tmac on the nets and replace carter i think the nets would have won 60 games.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
Tmac is extremely better and more of a complete player and more capable of just taking over a game like kobe. Tmac is the best SF in the league and thats above Lebron, he just had an injury filled season this year and i feel bad for the guy. Carter is pretty good and hes one of the best at his position but he isnt better then tmac, who has won 2 scoring titles. Carter can jump through the roof but so can tmac, tmac has the better build and hes taller but if your gonna off stats im gonna still have to go with tmac. Carter is a great player but if you was to put tmac on the nets and replace carter i think the nets would have won 60 games.

ru kidding me???? t-mac above vince and lebron??

i'm gonna be hoenst here.... i dont think the rockets would have been in the playoffs this year had he been healthy. look at the eight and seventh seeds? the kings did well against the spurs, and the lakers did well getting to the playoffs at all let alone taking the suns to the 7th game.
macgradys good, and so is yao... but i dont think the rest of the team is good enough to sustain a good playoff run.

and i do think that vince is having a good year and is better than macgrady

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
Tmac is extremely better and more of a complete player and more capable of just taking over a game like kobe. Tmac is the best SF in the league and thats above Lebron, he just had an injury filled season this year and i feel bad for the guy. Carter is pretty good and hes one of the best at his position but he isnt better then tmac, who has won 2 scoring titles. Carter can jump through the roof but so can tmac, tmac has the better build and hes taller but if your gonna off stats im gonna still have to go with tmac. Carter is a great player but if you was to put tmac on the nets and replace carter i think the nets would have won 60 games.

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Tanjot - now you know how we feel when you talk about Vince being the best. 😉

i dont care about how lebron is going to be in a few years i just care about right now and right now i would take tmac over lebron and i will always take tmac over carter, there aint no debate over that, tmac is better. had tmac and yao been healthy all year long were not talkin 7th and 8th seeds here, were talkin 6 and 5. they had 51 wins last season and they probaly would have gotten to 56 this year even in that tough division. they were an elite team with them both in the lineup.

i dont agree with that but its a valid opinion. next year you can expect to see the klings in a higher position, the clips will still be up there, and possibly the lakers if they get a pointguard. the rockets aint gonna find it easy... i dont see them having much depth.

of course, with tmac and yao out a lot its given other players a chance to increase their skills and get more experience... so it may help them with supporting roles. i'd still prefer carter over tmac. over lebron though? no way.

Imagine Rockets with LeBron and Yao though. Wow. Yao is a lot more dependable to pass to than LeBron's current big men.

Oh man. McGrady better than Lebron? I've heard everything now.

LOL this is lebrons 3rd year and your already puttin him over tmac wtf?? wtf??? wtf??? Tmac has accomplised way more and has experience and if i was to pick him or lebron to build a team around i would go with tmac. For right now. it pisses me off at how so many people has jumped on lebrons bandwagon so fast and still ridin that tail.

1. Kobe (no argument there, better not be)
2. Tmac (yup #2, thats right)
3. Lebron (hes not up there yet but he close behind)