Originally posted by Uber_God
um shouldnt this be in the IV-VI section?
yep.
anyway, first off how does helping kill off the entire jedi order, and then killing palpatine, followed by his own death equate to balancing the force??
if it was balanced, wouldn't that mean there'd be one jedi and one sith?? wtf..
first off, the potential to do evil is in every jedi. why would it be needed for anakin to die? especially since he's a broken down machine by the end of ep6. at that point luke has the same potential as anakin to turn evil, yet he is ever so much more powerful.
and seriously, this talk of 'balance of the force' includes killing all the jedi, is just plain wrong. the jedi dont create balance, they help keep it. the sith dont play into the balance, they destroy it. so please, you have to think beyond jedi=good sith=evil on two ends of a scale.
there's no way anakin HAD to be killed to fulfill his destiny, but in the end he's kind of a martyr, sacrificing himself. i dont think he dies in ep6 because of any damage sustained by force lightning, but that the dark side has kept him alive as an abomination...he stopped himself from dying. thats one of the 'unnatural' abilities palpatine mentioned.
so yeah. forget the scale, and forget that anakin's turn was part of his destiny. anakin's destiny is to kill the sith and restore balance. when he becomes vader he denies that destiny, and ignores the prophecy. once he becomes anakin and finally fulfills his destiny by killing the sith, THAT is when balance is restored.
i will agree that anakin must die, but not because he's a slave to it the force or to destiny. i have always believed that in ep6 vader knew he was going to die when he decided to save his son... and that had vader sustained that same damage and remained evil, he would have been completely fixable.(hypothetically if palps killed luke).
Actually thats a good point PVS. Because it seems like that the way the Jedi 'cheat death' is far different than the Sith way. It seems like , and I hope wil be confirmed in ROTS, that it is a choice you make to give up your physical body and become one with the force, ala Yoda & Obi. So one could argue that Anakin (having been brought back to the lightside) CHOSE to end his mortal life when he told Luke to take off his mask. I know he was critically injured from the lightening, but technology had kept him alive for 20 years, I'm betting it could have patched him up again. Yet he CHOSE to give himself to the force. Once again, everything comes down to choice.
I may be taking this too literally, but I figured that after Vader and Sidious had killed all the Jedi except for Obi-Wan and Yoda, balance was acheived. 2 Jedi, 2 Sith. Anakin was the chosen one that would bring balance to the force...and he did so by making the teams even, so to speak.
I feel that this was needed because the Jedi (and the Republic) had become somewhat complacent. Things had to get worse before they got better, and Anakin/Vader was the key.
Sorry if this idea was already posted...I tried to read through the thread but there are way too many fools cloggin things up around here lately. Way of the internet, I guess.