All Of Star Trek Vs All Of Star Wars

They will attack shields nothing more... I don't think a lot would happen... The first death star didn't even have shields anymore because its armor was so powerful that it didn't need it. But I imagine that if you have a large fleet and it manages to come close to the Death Star and manages to avoid all the defence weapons on it the thing will just turn around and blow it away all the same.

The thing is created to blow up Cruisers that come close if the cannon itself can not do it. But its obviously not something that would happen often.

The Main fleet engages their enemy's at a pretty large distance, the Death star just fly's in orbit of a planet, if it would want to I'm sure it could turn around but it would be hard for its enemy's to even come close enough to do any real damage, then to avoid the defences on the Death Star and also avoid being shot out of the air by the fleet...

lol thats exactly what i said. I mean after the Borg attack it and see that it has a powerful beam that can destroy mostly anything, theyd evaluate the situation and move around to the back and kill it. I never understood why they attacked it from the front in the first place in SW

And i completely agree with Jack Daniels. ST just has way more variety than SW with weapons and ships. Thats another reason why ST would take em out is because they can do a lot more stuff with their ships. Like in star wars, the only thing ive ever seen em do is "fire lasers" and "raise deflectors" and "Move to these coordinates" in their English accents. But in ST theyd firgure out how to take out a star destroyer with one phaser beam, or create jamming frequency that would be able to immobilize all ships and there systems in a small area for a few seconds, or have 3 starships tractor a star destroyer into antother one. They are just more creative and handy then the sw commanders. Man, just think of kirk and picard and janeway there. 😮‍💨

And why do they do that shit?

Because they have a few ships all scout ships... They need to figure out how to do things alone because they don't have a huge fleet to back them up. In SW when you face an enemy you can not defeat you run, if your in the army and you face an army you can not defeat you call for reinforcement and use the rest of the army to blow it up... ST doesn't have the ability to do that

Originally posted by Fishy
And why do they do that shit?

Because they have a few ships all scout ships... They need to figure out how to do things alone because they don't have a huge fleet to back them up. In SW when you face an enemy you can not defeat you run, if your in the army and you face an army you can not defeat you call for reinforcement and use the rest of the army to blow it up... ST doesn't have the ability to do that

An example is the temporal ship Annorax had. It wasn't too armed or armored but it couldn't be hit by conventional weapons and the one weapon it did had erased its target from history and could only be blocked by chroniton shielding. I guarantee shooting at it more wouldn't work.

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Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
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aside from everyone having odors...lol...I have fully come to the conclusion that without Q which the creator of this thread said no Q (thanks to Fishy for pointing that out several pages back) that NJO Luke is the deciding factor in this epic battle....SW once again in my drunken mind takes control! Only challenges to the thought of NJO Luke cannot be beaten by anything of ST universe (aside from Q and I still wonder about that...seperate thread) 😄 is maybe bioweapon sneak attack on Luke like thelion radition...But he wouldnt easily fall to that trap...Im even pondering if he could manipulate a genesis wave since it is "life" and he is damn near all powerful. I dont think even Apollo or ESP freaks would stand a chance....even though the ESP freaks had evergrowing power like Luke they didnt have the wisdom of Luke...anyways any logical challenges to NJO Lukes invincibility in this battle?

I just assumed "Franklin Richards" Luke was going to be left out of it since Q was disqualified.

well unless the creator of the thread said that then no....so SW once again takes the lead woohoo! Go Fantastic Luke...lol

Bleh. It's like there's two boxers in the ring and the ref gives them both tazers. The barb tazers. The fierce ones. But then takes Star Trek's tazer away.

no ST never entered the ring with a taser...lol....just phasers...lmao
Really though those two would be deciding factors for either side I think...Ive thought on this for defense on both sides....this is ultimate since no Q....but waiting for challenges to that idea of NJO luke...Swanky seems to apparently agree....anyone else have a thought..or you agree with Swanky analogy ?

I can't think of anything... I haven't watched the older star treks in a while so I can't recall any other prominent reality warpers other than Q's race. Plus I don't know much of this new Luke.

I can only remember some of the newish Voyager stuff. Let's see... there was Kes who was an Ocompan with crazy telekinetic powers. Enough so that she could send Voyager into an obscenely high warp speed for a few seconds, shaved 10 or 20 years off their trip or something like that. And she apparently had the ability to travel through time but not the power. She was going to use energy from a warp core to do it. Which would kind of coincide with the warp speed stunt.

And Species 8472 with the immune system so perfect that energy weapons had no effect on them or their bio-ships, they couldn't be assimilated, and their weaponry cut through borg ships, shields and all, like a baby through my digestive system.

And there's still the borg. They could be a hassle if they find out about the cortosis ore. Unless this super Luke isn't stopped by that.

They don't need Luke for that...

This battle will ultimately be fought in space... Luke can do a lot with the force there, but Anakin is going to be a lot more useful because he's a pilot... The Death Star is going to be what makes SW win here. The Death Star especially the second is huge, can fire fast and several times in a row.

And then there is the fact that SW concentrates far much more on war then ST does. I know a lot of you people are saying yeah but ST has stronger weapons and stronger shields... Seeing as we have no idea about how powerful either one of those things you will just have to use logic

- ST 300 years of space exploring with minimal fighting
- SW several thousands of years of full out wars.

Now which side is naturally going to have the more powerful weapons and shields? Then there is the pure size of the Super Star Destroyers, even a normal star destroyer is already half the size of a borg cube, a SSD is four time as long.

We can debate about technology all we want, but we don't know what it will do. The shields Star Wars uses are to make sure nothing and nobody can get through, not just attacks but entire ships as well. Maybe some ST technology could make them reach the other side but maybe not.

I once saw an episode where those guys were beamed up from a planet and combined or something I don't know because of some plants they had (something like that). Meaning that they are actually still matter as they are teleported. Things like that can not and will not penetrate the Death Star shields.

Then there is the borg maybe they can cut through if they survive the constant attacks from the SD's and SSD's and the Death Star. But again I doubt it, has anybody seen a reason for it? Oh and BTW SW has a lot of different weapons on ships, a lot of them, just go to the starwars.com databank, look at the primary weapons of every ship... The reason you never hear about them is pretty simple why would a captain of a ship like that care about it?

Just shoot the damn weapons and destroy the target thats what his troops are supposed to do, he has no reason to know all those weapons. Something goes wrong? Well great send a repair crew. We are being boarded? Well Damn, now where did I put those commando's. And he sure as hell doesn't have a reason to know the name of everybody on the ship.. A ship thats 12 kilometers long is to big for you to know by heart and far to big for you to know everybody in.

Also you have to remember that a movie in SW about just one ship would be damn boring because we would miss most of the mayor wars going on, and all the fighting that they constantly do. In ST what would you miss? Well mostly nothing because there isn't really any fighting. Thats why SW would win. They fight mayor wars when ST does not.

Pretty long post to get this away from Luke

The Fishmeister doesnt like NJO Luke okay....lol...but I still love reading his long posts...almost as good as a short story...lol....Im pickin on him lately...lol...ya vulcan luver....ouch...lol...wait dont say it I know whats coming next:......... Fishy ~~~>fish <~~~Jack

But hmm, aren't you going to continue this argument?

no need to sober up a bit first... what do they call that crap they give you in a shot if you overdose on something and you straighten right up...?.... narcon er something like that...I should keep that around just for KMC...lol...🧑‍⚕️

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Originally posted by Fishy
They don't need Luke for that...

This battle will ultimately be fought in space... Luke can do a lot with the force there, but Anakin is going to be a lot more useful because he's a pilot... The Death Star is going to be what makes SW win here. The Death Star especially the second is huge, can fire fast and several times in a row.

And then there is the fact that SW concentrates far much more on war then ST does. I know a lot of you people are saying yeah but ST has stronger weapons and stronger shields... Seeing as we have no idea about how powerful either one of those things you will just have to use logic

- ST 300 years of space exploring with minimal fighting
- SW several thousands of years of full out wars.

Now which side is naturally going to have the more powerful weapons and shields? Then there is the pure size of the Super Star Destroyers, even a normal star destroyer is already half the size of a borg cube, a SSD is four time as long.

We can debate about technology all we want, but we don't know what it will do. The shields Star Wars uses are to make sure nothing and nobody can get through, not just attacks but entire ships as well. Maybe some ST technology could make them reach the other side but maybe not.

I once saw an episode where those guys were beamed up from a planet and combined or something I don't know because of some plants they had (something like that). Meaning that they are actually still matter as they are teleported. Things like that can not and will not penetrate the Death Star shields.

Then there is the borg maybe they can cut through if they survive the constant attacks from the SD's and SSD's and the Death Star. But again I doubt it, has anybody seen a reason for it? Oh and BTW SW has a lot of different weapons on ships, a lot of them, just go to the starwars.com databank, look at the primary weapons of every ship... The reason you never hear about them is pretty simple why would a captain of a ship like that care about it?

Just shoot the damn weapons and destroy the target thats what his troops are supposed to do, he has no reason to know all those weapons. Something goes wrong? Well great send a repair crew. We are being boarded? Well Damn, now where did I put those commando's. And he sure as hell doesn't have a reason to know the name of everybody on the ship.. A ship thats 12 kilometers long is to big for you to know by heart and far to big for you to know everybody in.

Also you have to remember that a movie in SW about just one ship would be damn boring because we would miss most of the mayor wars going on, and all the fighting that they constantly do. In ST what would you miss? Well mostly nothing because there isn't really any fighting. Thats why SW would win. They fight mayor wars when ST does not.

Pretty long post to get this away from Luke

lol im still sorry but i just cant see them fighting thousands and thousands of borg cubes and spheres and winning when the borg have the ability to adapt to almost any weapon, regenerative capabilities, and still their ships being able to work and fight with 70% of it destroyed. And then having to also fight the Dominion fleet.