let me tell you something
this fights aren't real cuz malak lived lots of millenia be4 luke
but if we say they fought i said luke would win
i think you knew that 🙂
malak is a self-proclaimed sith lord and he is nothing compare to revan he is one cocky son of a B1tch
and luke would own him
old creaky mecha-Vaderwas the CHOSEn one !
this are my reasons
and i have rights on that
Geez, you think this is a democracy or something? No, really... you have rights to your opinion. And I have the right to challenge it. -My- right.
Chosen One theory is hogwash. BS. Something Lucas made up after a long night of drinking. There was no hint at him being the chosen one in the sequels, at all. We were never led to believe he was anything special other than the emperor's right hand man and the only living former Jedi other than Ben and Yoda. Suddenly, the prequels come around almost thirty years later and Anakin becomes a god? What nonsense. He could barely move after the lava bath of his. I refuse to accept the reasoning that "He is the chosen one" for anything in a what-if versus thread, ever ever again. Good lord... the propechy irks me
And secondly, Malak was confident and rightfully so. He was second in power to Revan himself, the the council was afraid of Malak's might. If they weren't, they would have attacked him and hoped to have captured or killed him. After all, there were numerous Jedi masters alive at the time, including Vrook and Vandar, both of which were much more powerful than ROTJ Luke. And they dare not stand up to Malak. So let's go with that and see where it gets us.
Oh... wait. Malak wins. Hm. Fancy that.
Before I start, I must applaud Darth Janus on his Chosen One hogwash theory. I very much agree on that part. Now on to my opinion...
I think ROTJ Luke would whoop Malak. Reason 1: Vader hunted down and destroyed many Jedi, while Malak tried to do it from his ship most of the time. So I think Vader is stronger than Malak and Vader couldn’t even touch Luke in ROTJ and Luke didn’t even want to fight. With a dark side surge, he took down Vader in about 40 seconds. Therefore I think he would crush Malak like a tin can. Reason 2: In AOTC, Anakin got hit by Count Dooku’s Force Lightning for 2 seconds or so and he was down for quite a while. Luke got hit with the Emperor’s Force Lightning for roughly a minute if you take out the short pauses. Right after the Emperor died, (maybe 10 seconds later) Luke could move and he wasn’t even breathing hard like Anakin in AOTC. That’s pretty tough. I think ROTJ Luke is seriously underestimated on this site. Even though he was a barely trained Jedi, he still had immense power. Look at Revan. He was a barely trained Padawan and he killed a Sith Lord, destroyed an ancient Sith lord’s spirit, and took down a Sith Academy on Korriban. So just because you have little training doesn’t mean you aren’t deadly. Malak on the other hand, could take down Bastila. That’s about all we know for sure. The two jedi on the Star Forge could have been near death from droids for crying out loud, and then he finished them off. I think Darth Malak is very powerful, don’t get me wrong, but he is always sending someone else, or using something else to fight his battles. First he fired on Revan’s ship from afar, then he fired on Dantooine from afar, then he sent Calo Nord and Darth Bandon after Revan. Later he sent Bastila after Revan, then he sent the droids after him, then the dark jedi, then he tried to use the Star Forge, and finally with the exception of the Leviathan, he himself fought Revan but he still used those Jedi for help. Only on the Leviathan did he actually fight without assistance. Anyway, that’s why I think Luke would own Malak.
i have said this several times on many different threads but I'll say it again. Revan had thousands of tainted Jedi to choose from and he choose Malak. We can bet he would choose the most powerful so Malak has to be the best out of a group of thousands of Jedi. BEST OF THOUSANDS!!!! Luke Skywalker in the NJO, during when he was several times better, had students that could give him a challenge. This means he was not far above a crowd of about 100 Jedi Knights. Best of 5000+ or best of 100. I think the one who is the best of 5000+ wins. I say 5000+ because there was about 30000 Jedi before the Exar Kun War. After there was only about 15000. by the start of the Mandalorian Wars, there was about 18000. After Mandalorian Wars there was about 12000 and during the Jedi Civil War(when Revan was evil), right after the Mandalorian Wars, they were at about 12500. During the Jedi Civil War, Revan had the majority of the Jedi on his side. This means Malak was best out of 6250, if none were killed immediately. Therefor 5000+.
Malak wins hands down.
Firstly Revan did not have command of 5,000 jedi knights. I don't know where you get these bogus ideas. Revan had command of a handful of Jedi, which would probably be around 200 or 300. Secondly, what student are you talking about that gave Luke trouble? Gantoris? He had a high potential, was trained by Exar Kun, had a lightsaber with 3 crystals instead of one like Luke had, the lightsaber even had an extension, and Luke had no idea that Gantoris even had a lightsaber so Gantoris definitely had surprise on his side and Luke still beat him pretty easily. Thirdly. you said "This means he was not far above a crowd of about 100 Jedi Knights." Luke was one of the strongest Jedi EVER. Far above millions of other Jedi, not hundreds. Darth Sidious was very afraid of Luke. That alone shows significant power. Therefore, Luke wins hands down.
Yes there may have been 10,000 jedi knights but only a very few were in the mandalorian wars with Revan. Those were the jedi he had to choose from, and there were no masters there, not to mention Malak was Revan's closest friend. Besides, Yoda declared Luke a Jedi Knight in ROTJ, not just some padawan. Once again, Revan and Malak were only knights in the mandalorian wars and when they became Sith Lords. Just because you are a knight doesnt mean you are a weakling. Nextly, Malak didnt learn much about the Sith except for what Revan may have taught him. Malachor V turned Malak to the Dark Side, and he didn't seek out any knowledge. So finally, lets compare the two. Malak: the strongest jedi we know that Malak defeated was Bastila, a strong jedi knight, but not a master. Luke: Defeated a Sith Lord with ease that had slaughtered every other Jedi he came up against. So yeah, Luke definitely wins.
i still think malak would own luke, considering vader did not fight at full strenght for sure, as not to hurt luke so he is still useful(they tried to turn him, remember?) and yes, malak did send a lot of ppl to fight for him, but consider this: would the game be very interesting if u fight malak on taris, then u fight him on tatooine, then on manaan, then on leviathan and when u come to star forge u go to him straight away?
i dont think so, so all those ppl were for the enjoyment of the game.
also, Malak was self proclaimed, but think of this, the sith were at its best power(not sure bout it but who cares) so if an aprentice is stronger, the master is challenged, and i presume he was challenged, and he was only defeated by revan, who wa truly amazing.
so basicly, only revan could oppose him, and revan would own Luke and vader both at the same duel