I'd like to see Rogue fight Apocalypse or Juggernaut. I know Juggernaut rocked her like a frat boy falling out of a tree.
And I'd like to see Rogue fight Ironman, who's just a human with machinery, or Jack of Hearts, who's just an experiment gone wrong. All the mutants are experiments. The cybornetic villians are humans machines and possibly experiments at the same time.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I'd like to see Rogue fight Apocalypse or Juggernaut. I know Juggernaut rocked her like a frat boy falling out of a tree.And I'd like to see Rogue fight Ironman, who's just a human with machinery, or Jack of Hearts, who's just an experiment gone wrong. All the mutants are experiments. The cybornetic villians are humans machines and possibly experiments at the same time.
Swanky i see what youre trying to do there but you know these characters you've chosen are extremes of humans aided by machinery of given powers through experimentation. Iron Mans an avenger and J of hearts gets involved in cosmic affairs cos he has the power to do so. Rogue probably wouldnt be able to take those two but she would sure have a better chance at taking them down than spiderman would.
rogue would give iron man a run for his money, i dont think she'll win but she would rip pieces of that armour off before she goes down. Im dont really like rogue that much, but i just hate the fact that people choose other characters because they like them, but they know deep down inside that the other character will crack there neck. Rogue isnt any different from wonderwomen, except in the strength dept but she still have plenty of strength of her own, and if you gave her heat vision she wouldnt be any different from superman. This is a loosing battle for spiderman and all of his human, non experienced villians.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Weak like Rhino or weak like Electro?And inexperienced like Black Tarantula?
Rogue would take out Rhino i hav no doubt about that. Rhino is stronger for sure. He's class 90. However his combat skills are appalling. He is a straight out brawler who charges around in battle hoping his strength and durability will see him through. He's dumb as hell and easily goaded by spidey to charge around and fall into traps he sets up. Thats how he wins against the like of rhino. Through goading, setting up traps and using his agility to keep out of harms way, knowing that they cant reach him.
Rogue is different. She has that kinda strength, she is very durable, she has a high flying speed so she will reach him.
She is level headed and a good tactician. Spidey will not be able to goad her into making stupid mistakes or attacking. Thats also how he beats electro. Electro while intelligent, he is very temperamental and spideys constant jokes and goading plays on his hatred for him and he lashes out and falls right into spideys traps.
Rogue is superior to most of spideys enemies in the qualities needed to actually beat spidey. Thats quite apparent. She has the powers, the intelligence and the mentality to do so.
Spideys finished
morlun beat the breaks out of spiderman; spiderman was running the entire fight. Spiderman had to get some kind of radiation to defeat morlun, so im not counting that because spiderman got the breaks beaten out of him and was running the entire time. What happened to spiderman speed in that fight, he was getting trampled, wolverine would have gave morlun a better challenge but i have to give spiderman his credit he did find a way to win, not a straight up fight (due to the worst beat down in comics that spiderman received) but on the intelligent part.
brainchild please tell me a villian or hero that spiderman has fought that never laid a hand on him. ALL OF THE VILLIANS THAT HE FIGHTS HITS HIM. I have seen spiderman get beat down so bad that he thought he was going to die (morlun). Lets put it like this, if king pin can grab him and almost squezze the life out of him rogue shouldnt have a problem, if 80 yr old vulture can grab him then rogue will not have a problem. Do you get my point.
So with that spiderman speed argument you keep bringing up, it dont mean crap, just look at marvel knights #13 where wolverine injects his claws in spiderman chest.
I see how it worked. Morlun was absorbing Spiderman's totemistic force and apparently had strength on par with thor or hulk. But elsewhere I heard some regular-ish guy gave him a pop in the nose and made it bleed. High strength and lower durability maybe? Maybe he was weak from lack of absorbing? Who knows.
this is why rogue can beat spiderman
Powers: mutant/Kree/Skrull hybrid
- absorb the essence of another living being upon physical contact, weakening them or rendering them comatose while she metabolizes their personal energies to temporarily duplicate their superhuman powers, special skills, memories and personality matrix
- permanently absorbed Kree DNA gives her flight, superhuman strength, endurance, reflexes, and durability, seventh sense that allows her to react instinctively to danger and home in on specified objects
- exposure to Skrull DNA enables her to recall at will past templates she has absorbed to reactivate any powers she has taken on in the past, and allows her to "feel out" the minds of her former imprints, sensing whether they are alive or dead and re-experiencing events from their perspective .