rogue vs spiderman

"And yes, Namor admitted he could not break the web. Just like Rogue"

Actually my young friend she never once admitted she couldnt break it. She was snagged on it because spidey caught her from behind in mid flight and storm inquired as to why she hadnt just dusted it off and rogue said because its stronger than steel cable. Within seconds the spidey had fled. Im sorry but if Venom can break the webbing as he and carnage always do, then rogue could. In the instance you've picked rogue is caught unawares and from behind while flying and thats it. There was no mention of her not being able to break it u just saw her being dragged bk due to the webs elasticity.

"Yeah I know, Firelord was thinking the same thing "

Firelord is a fiery character who can be goaded into making wreckless mistakes. Spidermans defeat of him showed this. I had him very much in mind when i was writing all of my arguments 2day. Which is why youre mentioning of him hasnt helped your cause in the slightest. 😉

Rogue is level headed and can be a great tactician. Just hav a look at her time as the xmens leader bk in uncanny xmen about 5 years ago.

Im still waiting for you to come up with a gd reason as to why spidey would win. I know u luv the character but he just doesnt hav it in him im afraid. 🙁

Anyone reading thru this thread will see that the rogue voters hav come up with very valid reasons and scenarios as to why rogue would win. U on the other hand son are down to just spouting about his webbing or his defeat of various other super strength people who rogue is superior to in the qualities needed to defeat spiderman. This was won last month giv it up already. 😄

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
In the instance you've picked rogue is caught unawares and from behind while flying and thats it. There was no mention of her not being able to break it u just saw her being dragged bk due to the webs elasticity.

I know you don't like it, but hey, can't change the facts, can we ? 😉

Rogue is level headed and can be a great tactician. Just hav a look at her time as the xmens leader bk in uncanny xmen about 5 years ago.

Im still waiting for you to come up with a gd reason as to why spidey would win. I know u luv the character but he just doesnt hav it in him im afraid

There are hundreds of people SM just can't beat, but Rogue is not one of them. He has defeated stronger, is more clever, has his web, is more experienced and can dodge every single Rogue-attack.

You know when Rogue can win ? When she absorbs his powers, than it's exit Spider-Man. She only has to touch him for a second, and he'll faint or so. But mano a mano, SM remains the better fighter with the raw power needed to knock her down.

Originally posted by Draco69
No SvFL

Spiderman vs. Firelord, or SvFL, is a shorthand that refers to any time when a character performs a feat that their powers and skills should be blatantly insufficient for, and is not repeated or is rarely repeated again relative to the character's overall established career, as well as the character's opponents' established showings. In statistical terms, it is an outlier, something that is radically beyond the character's established capabilities. For example, Spiderman defeating a herald of Galactus is a case of the SvFL exemption; however, Batman being able to sneak up on Superman is not because he has done so frequently under different writers.
For standard debates, feats considered to fall under the SvFL exemption are not valid. Likewise, examples of writing which go against firmly set canon are also ignored. For example, in Larry Hama's run of Batman and Grell's run of Iron Man, both characters were out of character and did things very much against established canon; therefore those runs are disregarded.

"The fact remains that she will have lots of trouble when covered up in web. Spider-Man is a master with his web, and do you really think he will have a hard time hitting Rogue with his web ? He has done it before, he can do it again.

I know you don't like it, but hey, can't change the facts, can we ? "

Yeah rogue will hav trouble if spidey saturates her in webbing. I just doubt hes going to be given the oppurtunity to do so. I love the way you hav changed the focus of your argument from spidey pounding rogue one minute and now webbing her up to win. Ahhh did my debating actually make quite apparent how ridiculous your stance was? Dont worry about it. Its happens to everyone at one point. 😉

"Level headed ? Sure, whenever her 6570 personalities aren't giving her a hard time ."

Please update your knowledge on rogue or refrain from debating like a good boy. Rogues multiple psyches havent inhibited her in a fight for many years son. Its cool we all make mistakes 😄

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Yeah rogue will hav trouble if spidey saturates her in webbing.

I just doubt hes going to be given the oppurtunity to do so.

I love the way you hav changed the focus of your argument from spidey pounding rogue one minute and now webbing her up to win.

Originally posted by who?-kid

True 😛

Why ? It isn't exactly a new thing for SM, using his web is like Captain America using his shield.

Well, IF SM, for some reason - when Rogue is covered under web lol - could punch and kick Rogue for a whole minute, she'll be out of the picture for sure. [/B]

Naahhh added nothing to your argument at all. Id go as far as saying that was a waste of a post. I think i'll save my energies for someone with the knowledge and skill to actually put up a gd debate on this topic.

Its cool tho. Dont be disheartened. We all hav to start somewhere. Just work your way up son. U ever need any tips just PM me i'll be only to happy to help u out. 😉

You know, ending every single post with telling me - or everybody else - how good a debater you are and how bad a debater I am, doesn't impress me.

And you forget a little detail : you still haven't said how Rogue is gonna beat SM ? You think she will clean the floor with him ? Fine. Tell me how.

didn't rogue lose her ms. marvel-based powers recently?

Yes.

well then.....

"You know, ending every single post with telling me - or everybody else - how good a debater you are and how bad a debater I am, doesn't impress me."

Im sorry where have i done that? It would helpful if u could refresh my memory.

"And you forget a little detail : you still haven't said how Rogue is gonna beat SM ? You think she will clean the floor with him ? Fine. Tell me how."

And you forget that i am not the sum total of the rogue defense. I have actually presented my ideas as to how and why she would win. If u've actually read the thread you will know this. If not which i suspect is the case then have a little browse thru now before you next contribute. It makes sense to do this anyway just to make sure your posts stay relevant. But hey dont worry about it. Youre still learning

"didn't rogue lose her ms. marvel-based powers recently?"

Yeah she did but we're referring to classic rogue as was the thread starter

Im sorry where have i done that? It would helpful if u could refresh my memory.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But hey dont worry about it. Youre still learning

Dont be disheartened. We all hav to start somewhere. Just work your way up son

Ahhh did my debating actually make quite apparent how ridiculous your stance was? Dont worry about it. Its happens to everyone at one point.

Please update your knowledge on rogue or refrain from debating like a good boy. Rogues multiple psyches havent inhibited her in a fight for many years son. Its cool we all make mistakes

It was a good attempt tho. Youre getting better.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
"didn't rogue lose her ms. marvel-based powers recently?"

Yeah she did but we're referring to classic rogue as was the thread starter

I just can't see Rogue beating Spiderman. He CAN dodge virtually
anything she tries to do to him. He WILL eventually hit her with webs,
objects, fists, kicks, swing-kicks (ouch), and any combination thereof...

Same here, but I never said it would be easy. Rogue is tough and fast and is not to be underestimated, but the fact remains Spider-Man has handled tougher and faster.

And I wouldn't rely on that "famous" extra sense of hers either, cuz I have the feeling it only works part-time.

Last but not least, one of the "comic-rules" lol is that these fights always end in a fistfight. And that's where Rogue is outclassed.

If it gets to a fist-fight, an eyefull of webs followed by
tens of punches in the time she rips the webs off......

Yeah some web in the eye wouldn't hurt...

it just occured to me.......
isn't GalacticStorm the one who went on about how
Storm can totally destroy Dr. Doom by herself?