Asians: The Most Stereotyped Race on Earth?

Originally posted by Draco69
My argument is that the cultural images (i.e. movies, books, etc.) has sparked an internalization and renunciation of these said stereoypes have shaped sexual and gender politics within Asian America. I admit we got enormously offtopic but this is where it begins anew.

There are numerous controlling media images that reconstruct the societal role of Asian Americans: Yellow Peril, the model minority, the Dragon Lady and the China Doll.

The contemporary model-minority stereotype, for example, emasculates Asian American men as passive and malleable. Disseminated and perpetuated through the popular media, Asian men are decipited as sometimes brillant but completely lacking masculine heterosexual prowess. The most common example for this is the Fu Manchu character.

Yes, so you have said... but can you actually SHOW this happening?

Originally posted by LordFear
Seriously though when you think about it much can be said for the majority of other cultures.
Blacks, Native Americans, Hispanics
I mean we all kinda know of the Blacks plight in this country. Sad as it is and still the struggle they are now enduring. Still second class citizens.
Most Whites would beleive that Blacks got a good deal outta all of this.
Hispanics pretty much same as Blacks maybe a step higher.
But the Native Americans people they have been violated, raped, ravaged and humiliated. I mean no offense to Asians because I know during the Great Frontier era( cowboy and Indians and railroad time) Asians were severly oppressed in this country but Native Americans have been through so much, that to begin making amends would take a lifetime. Has anybody ever been to a Reservation before?
It's sickening and unholy.
It's makes the urban ghettos and projects look like a country club.

Native Americans have got it worse than any race in America. However Asian Americans have been completely typecast into roles that suit the power elite with little to no resistance. The Native Americans fought every step of the way.

Originally posted by Draco69
There's an enormous amount of "Americanization". People are trading or otherwise completely dropping their own culture and ideals for OUR culture and ideals. This comes with a reconstruction of gender roles and societal roles. Commerce is being established but their impact on us is wholly low (anime cartoons) while ours is much higher (The Square incident).

I don't think they are dropping their culture. I think they are incorporating their culture with ours. Take a look at our immigrants in the USA. They don't necessarily become americanized in an instant. They continue to hold their own culture and adapting to the American lifestyle. The reason most people adapt to American standards is because of simple business reasons. Nothing more than that. On the other hand Americans do develop an interest into other cultures as well. But not just because of Economic reasons but also because other cultures are quite appealing.

They fought and to what avail???
None.
Anything to show for the fight put up?
A patch of dirt in the middle of no where along with the worst education, the worst socio economic class possible in this country.
The ratio of drunks, degenerates, highschool dropouts, prostitutes are among the highest in the country. And with no signs of improving. Their culture practically decimated and forgotten along with their beliefs that are ridiculed and termed "uneducated and savage".
They fair less than Blacks as far as demographically and percentile wise.
If I could pick, I would prefer being an Asian any time of the day.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Yes, so you have said... but can you actually SHOW this happening?

Absolutely. The controlling images of Asian men and Asian women, exaggerated out of all proportion in Western representation, have created resentment and tension between Asian men and women. Given this cultural milieu, many American-born Asians do no think of other Asians in sexual terms. In particular, due to the persistent desexualization of the Asian male, many Asian females do not perceive their male counterparts to be desirable marriage partners.

In doing so, these women unwittingly enforce the Eurocentric gender ideology that objectifies both sexes and racializes all Asains.

In a popular magazine called Asian Times, a reporter wrote an article about his discussion with many Asian women. The women proceeded, one after another, to describe how "Asian American men were too passive, week, too boring, too traditional, too abusive, too domineering, too ugly, too greasy, too short, too...Asian. Almost all described that they prefer white men and would never date an Asian man.

A very recent example is Rush Hour and the Samarai. Chris Tucker got the girls. Jackie Chan was busy fighting all the bad guys, as the sidekick. Tom Cruise got the Asian girl. All the Asian men died terrible deaths.

A prime and undisputable evidence is anime. They're all white. With blonde hair. Blue eyes. They see themselves as inferior. Which is why it is rare to find a truely Asian character in anime cartoons.

Originally posted by WindDancer
I don't think they are dropping their culture. I think they are incorporating their culture with ours. Take a look at our immigrants in the USA. They don't necessarily become americanized in an instant. They continue to hold their own culture and adapting to the American lifestyle. The reason most people adapt to American standards is because of simple business reasons. Nothing more than that. On the other hand Americans do develop an interest into other cultures as well. But not just because of Economic reasons but also because other cultures are quite appealing.

They drop several key points of their culture. Particularly gender, societal roles. They still keep several key points of their culture, however it slowly degrades as they become more and more affliated with American culture.

Well if they embrace it then what's the problem???
IF they fought it then I would be more understanding.
The harm apparently is done and the majority of them accept it as a way of life.
I'll cry a river for them when they stand up and fight the machine like many Blacks have and are doing as well as Indian activists.

being nearly full blood irish, i've grown up learning to make humor out of the stereotypes....

the irish people are all drunks...and the women drink and pop out babies....we fight, smoke, gamble, and are unemployed...oh yeah and we say "bloody hell" entirely too much...

yeah technically this is true....but for god's sake, someone should cut us some slack and throw in a "good at math" or "does karate" somewhere....

asians shouldn't complain....their stereotypes really aren't that bad....

well except for small you-know whats...but then again....we got stuck with that one too

Originally posted by LordFear
Well if they embrace it then what's the problem???
IF they fought it then I would be more understanding.
The harm apparently is done and the majority of them accept it as a way of life.
I'll cry a river for them when they stand up and fight the machine like many Blacks have and are doing as well as Indian activists.

They don't embrace it. It's instigated upon them.

I was just wondering, how are Australians perceived in the US? I have a couple of friends over there and before they knew me, they thought Australia was basically all desert with kangaroos hopping around everywhere!

Originally posted by Draco69
Absolutely. The controlling images of Asian men and Asian women, exaggerated out of all proportion in Western representation, have created resentment and tension between Asian men and women. Given this cultural milieu, many American-born Asians do no think of other Asians in sexual terms. In particular, due to the persistent desexualization of the Asian male, many Asian females do not perceive their male counterparts to be desirable marriage partners.

In doing so, these women unwittingly enforce the Eurocentric gender ideology that objectifies both sexes and racializes all Asains.

In a popular magazine called Asian Times, a reporter wrote an article about his discussion with many Asian women. The women proceeded, one after another, to describe how "Asian American men were too passive, week, too boring, too traditional, too abusive, too domineering, too ugly, too greasy, too short, too...Asian. Almost all described that they prefer white men and would never date an Asian man.

A very recent example is Rush Hour and the Samarai. Chris Tucker got the girls. Jackie Chan was busy fighting all the bad guys, as the sidekick. Tom Cruise got the Asian girl. All the Asian men died terrible deaths.

A prime and undisputable evidence is anime. They're all white. With blonde hair. Blue eyes. They see themselves as inferior. Which is why it is rare to find a truely Asian character in anime cartoons.

u did watch rush hour 2 right? where jackie chan got the girl?

if a woman (asian or not) wants a man to be a certain way, then she'll go for the one that is the way she wants, society is not going to tell her, what matters is what floats her boat... be he asian, white, black whatever...

Originally posted by Curl_Up&Dye

well except for small you-know whats...but then again....we got stuck with that one too

we did not... 😠

and yes, we have a lot of negative stereotypes...

I see it as embraced because I don't see anybody or anything being done to rectify the problem. Most Asians would probably tell you that it's all garbage and deny your claims. Therefore how can it be forced upon them if they barely would admit to it????
Your claims about anime and such are true, I agree but is their a change underway or looming in the future? No. Therefore I don't see it as being such an evil influence as it might be.
Again the same was done with Blacks and Native Americans.

Originally posted by pr1983
u did watch rush hour 2 right? where jackie chan got the girl?

if a woman (asian or not) wants a man to be a certain way, then she'll go for the one that is the way she wants, society is not going to tell her, what matters is what floats her boat... be he asian, white, black whatever...

The problem with Rush Hour 2 is that Jackie's co-star was a black man. Think about that.

The unfortunate thing is that more and more Asian American women are viewing Asian American men as undesirable. Asian American women have the highest rate of interracial marriage in the country.

What about Shanghai Knights???
Was Jackie the sidekick as well??No
I saw him as playing a very active and commanding role.
Perhaps you are thinking more of Bruce Lee and his role in the Green Hornet. Now that I agree with you 100%

BTW SPUNKIE, I think Americans view Australia as the land down under as a bunch of hillbillies, gap toothed uneducated wildbills. I think their idea of Australia is mostly based on Paul Hogan in Crocodile Dundee.

Originally posted by Draco69
The problem with Rush Hour 2 is that Jackie's co-star was a black man. Think about that.

The unfortunate thing is that more and more Asian American women are viewing Asian American men as undesirable. Asian American women have the highest rate of interracial marriage in the country.

yr pissed cos he wasnt white? you watched shanghai noon and knights right? with owen wilson, blonde hair?

so? should they stick to asian men?

Originally posted by LordFear
What about Shanghai Knights???
Was Jackie the sidekick as well??No
I saw him as playing a very active and commanding role.
Perhaps you are thinking more of Bruce Lee and his role in the Green Hornet. Now that I agree with you 100%

BTW SPUNKIE, I think Americans view Australia as the land down under as a bunch of hillbillies, gap toothed uneducated wildbills. I think their idea of Australia is mostly based on Paul Hogan in Crocodile Dundee.

Jackie was ABSOLUTELY the sidekick in that movie. The other guy was clearly the spotlight. He got the girl. He defeated the bad guy. He was the hero.

And that movie just bolsters my arguement. Can you name 10 movies that has an Asian person that doesn't somehow involve martial arts or giant robots?

Originally posted by pr1983
yr pissed cos he wasnt white? you watched shanghai noon and knights right? with owen wilson, blonde hair?

so? should they stick to asian men?

No. The media views African-Americans as even inferior to Asian Americans. Because they are the "model minority".

Owen Wilson was the hero of both flicks. The spotlight was on him. Jackie Chan was just the sidekick that saved his ass 75% of the time.

Originally posted by Draco69
Jackie was ABSOLUTELY the sidekick in that movie. The other guy was clearly the spotlight. He got the girl. He defeated the bad guy. He was the hero.

And that movie just bolsters my arguement. Can you name 10 movies that has an Asian person that doesn't somehow involve martial arts or giant robots?

considering most martial arts movies are made by asians...

jackie has long been the star of every movie he's been in...

If we are gonna stereotype why not mention Chris Tucker's role in the movie as well???
He of course has to play the comic relief part right????
With the rap music blairing in his car and his homies and cousin being drug dealers and such. And that's just one movie!!!

Originally posted by LordFear
If we are gonna stereotype why not mention Chris Tucker's role in the movie as well???
He of course has to play the comic relief part right????
With the rap music blairing in his car and his homies and cousin being drug dealers and such. And that's just one movie!!!

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