"""NG won't have time to put up anything, you guys don't seem to realize this. Surfer will hit him in a NANOSECOND. NG can't do anything in the time it will take Surfer to get to him and beat the shit out of him. I never said he was more powerful than Galactus or Thanos, what the hell are you smoking? I never said NG couldn't 'break' him, but the odds are VERY low. Surfer has taken blows from Hulk and Thanos and not been, 'broken', he's taken shots from guys who have broken his board, it will take a TON of power to 'break' Surfer, more power than NG has. Don't even say he's on the same level as some of the guys SS has thrown down with either, because then you're just being ignorant."""
as i recall u were the one who said that there was NOTHING nate could do to HURT surfer, and dont claim that nate does not have enough power to hurt or defeat surfer, some of the guys surfer has thrown down include, which guys exactly? he loses to thor, he loses to thanos, he damn well loses to galactus, so whats ur point? and just after this post about u not statin that he was as powerful as thanos or galactus, u claim that surfer at full potential is at galactus level, JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO CONTEMPLATE AT WHAT THAT MEANS , which is another way of saying ARE U SERIOUS?!
"""You're telling me a race who wipes civilizations out of existence isnt
power? Yeah, ok."""
nate can wipe civilizations off the face of the earth along with earth itself, but thas not all that counts, nate destroyed an alien race that had harvested the life force of planets, and earth for eaons{the same life force galactus consumes btw} and had practically drained earth's life force along with its inhabitants, nate not only destroyed them, but through his power, HEALED the planet and all its occupants, by his power, now think about how much energy that would require.
"""Surfer's power alone is what brought the life back to his home planet, read the comic. Shalla Bal couldn't do shit without it. As a matter of fact, now that I'm reading the comic, Shalla Bal was killed by Mephisto's blast, and her soul was drifting away, Surfer used the power cosmic to return her to normal self and caused plantlife to grow wherever she walked."""
uhm, he RETURNED her soul, which had not drifted out of the ethereal world , back to her body, thas no impressive feat, he didnt bring it back after it had drifted away forever, n thas the real hard thing to do in the marvel universe, and growing of plant life isnt the same as making a soul for the plants.and surfer's power was not what brought back life to the planet, if that were true than surfer would long ago have brought back life to HIS PLANET WHOSE LIFEFORCE WAS CONSUMED BY GALACTUS OR ANY OTHER PLANET DONTCHA THINK!
"""As far as NG returning life, I'm almost 100% sure that you're saying this out of context, and I plan on finding an exact issue number so I can look into it."""
it was nate grey's last appearance before his apparent death, u can check it out, im not saying anything out of context.
"""Surfer beat Mephisto in his own realm in SS v2 #1. He's beaten him 2 or 3 times total, but that is the first issue that pops into my head."""
he did? hmmm, now fair out, using only his power, without tricking mephisto or using any artifact or anything to hold a leverage over mephisto's head or without anythin stopping mephisto from killing him?
"""In terms of raw power, SS and NG are pretty in the same league. Just different types of power. Surfer's possibilities are almost endless, not only that, but he doesn't have to use his power to make himself more durable, like NG. In SS v3 #24 he is cut into several pieces, yet he continues to fly to his objective and change the computer's programming. He then fully restores himself. Even if NG somehow 'breaks' him, he'll just heal himself."""
he cant heal himself when being destroyed by the power of nate, just like he cant heal himself while goin up against any other higher power.
besides where did the NATE IS OUT OF SURFER'S LEAGUE thing go, why did u just start admitting that they both have the same amount of power, was all the points u made before about nate being crusshed by surfer because of his lack of power bullshit?
"""As for the Cable breaking the board with great effort, you said I acted like it took him planning. I don't have to plan for a month to try my hardest to lift a very heavy object, I just have to exert myself greatly and then it happens. Same thing with Cable. Yes, Surfer was listening to him;"""
surfer wasnt listening to him, he was blasting him through stuff at highspeeds, letting cable restore everything.
"""Cable: Why are you doing this? Don't you see how important this is to me?
Surfer: I see your passion
*BLAM*
Surfer: Passion begets hunger. Hunger consumes worlds.
Then with a wave of his hand, Surfer brings back his board. As for you saying it would only take a C20 person to break his arm, the sad part is, the arm is the most durable part of his body. You talk about psionic armor, why the hell wasn't he using it there? Don't say he was trying to talk to him, because he had already attacked Surfer, and knew damn well Surfer wasn't going to sit by and do nothing about it."""
yes it is durable but not cosmic durable, AND IT WAS NATE GREY THAT MADE AND USED THAT PSIONIC ARMOIUR "NOT CABLE" cable wouldnt know about making a psionic armour, just goes to make a pretty strong case about ur credibilty about statin facts that are not backed up by truth, im sure u havent read a lot of cable or nate comics, or u woudnt have made a stupid mistake like that.and when had cable ever already attacked surfer with THE INTENT TO KILL OR INJURE HIM, cable just wanted surfer out of the way and wasnt using his psionic power too much at all before he broke his board.
"""Nate Grey can be as powerful as he wants, Cable had much more control over his powers, and he got beat like a little girl. Surfer will beat Nate Grey, not as easily, but he will still beat him."""
uhm excuse me again u fail to notice that nate in his shaman days had more control over his power than god cable, and any one who BREAKES THE SURFER'S BOARD{which can not be affcted by anythin less than galactus's cosic poweras stated officially, and has only been destroyed by cosmics like morg etc, [the type which u say are far above nate or cabel]} in a fight, can definately not be remembered as "bein beat like a little girl" so stop sensationalizing crap OK!
"""I say this because the power cosmic can do damn near anything. He can manipulate matter, return life to souls (Apparently), create objects, destroy things, augment his power, use telepathy. This statement proves without a shadow of a doubt you have NO idea about Surfer's powers, and really should go read some Surfer comics."""
damn near anything huh, what about telepathy, no amount of power cosmic can give u telepathy, even galactus had to be a born telepath to read minds, powercosmic cant grant telepathy, nor can it grant sight into the future, and i havent yet seen the power cosmic stop time like nate did anywhere.and HE CANT return life to souls, just take souls which have notpassed on back to their physical bodies, remember even the grandmaster cant bring back souls that have passed on nor can galactus let alone surfer.and STOP SENSATIONOLIZING AGAIN, this statement doesnt prove ANYTHIN WITHOUT A "SHADOW OF A DOUBT" stop trying to put the opposition down personally, we all love surfer{i do} we all read surfer comics, u cant read marvel and not read surfer, but maybe U SHOULD READ SOME XMAN COMICS.
"""If you gave Surfer full power and all his control he'd be Galactus. Surfer is only limited by the amount of power cosmic he can contain, just like Nate Grey. So if you want to give Nate Grey, 'full' power, then lets give Surfer 'full' power. He'll have all the power cosmic, and Nate will have all the Raw mutant power. Guess who's gonna win? The guy who is a fundamental force of the universe."""
this is the most ridiculous statement ive heard, surfer is almost at full potential his power is that his body cells can store and synthesize cosmic energy, he doesnt innately posses it like galactus, and desfinately NOWHERE NEAR the same amount of energy as galactus has, ur stupid if u think surfer is even near that level, AND u said in ur previous post where u said that surfer was as powerful as thanos or galactus, WELL BUDDY " U JUST SAID IT"!!!!!!
"""because really, mutants are a joke compared to some of these characters."""
not really, nate is more powerful than surfer.or potentially thanos, and lets not forget the most powerful mutant of them all FRANKLIN RICHARDS, hes done more fantastic stuff than the new pheonix has, NEVER, underestimate mutants.
"""If he's so powerful then why does he have trouble doing anything? Why couldn't he just warp reality to save himself, like SW or FR would do? He isn't THAT powerful, characters like Phoenix are above and beyond simply because they have more avenues to what their power can to."""
"""he only HAD trouble doing stuff because his power was too much for him to control, and nate relies mostly on telepathy, telekenesis, but he did use reality manipulation on many times including against the harvesters, and beside u dont realy believe that nate is more powerful than franklin do u?"""
THERE, THE STUFF INSIDE THE INVERTED COMMAS IS UR POSTS AND THE STUFF OUTSUDE THE INVERTED COMMAS IN MY REPLY . "IS THAT EASY ENOUGH FOR ICKLE NATAKU'S MIND TO GRASP?!