Anti-Illegal Immagration is Racisim?

Started by PVS6 pages

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/25/earlyshow/living/main619424.shtml

well moviejunkie23, i took the liberty of finding that article myself, and it turns out it has nothing to do with the topic.

that article refers to crooked laws in mexico which leave murderers unpunished. a cop was shot at a routine traffic stop execution style and the killer, an illegal, fled to mexico. there the mexican government refused to extradited the killer back to the US to face justice. the sad irony is if he had just shot and wounded the cop, he WOULD have faced justice.

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QUOTE---Teri March says, "Basically, we have a Mexican justice system who is adamantly against life in prison or the death penalty. We have our district attorney who is adamant in only receiving life in prison or the death penalty. It's a Catch 22. It is very much that.”
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this has nothing to do with illegal immigration and everything to do with the need to put pressure on the mexican government to corect this matter
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QUOTE---This month, hundreds of protestors joined the March family at a rally to demand justice. In L.A. county alone, authorities estimate, there are 200-300 cases in which murderers have fled to Mexico.
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QUOTE---California's nearly 3 million illegal immigrants cost taxpayers nearly $9 billion each year, according to a new report released last week by the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a Washington, D.C.-based group that promotes stricter immigration policies.
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http://www.fairus.org/
"Federation for American Immigration Reform" is an agenda based organisation, and was not mentioned the that article. i never believe figures from any such organisation as it is easy to bend numbers to fit an agenda.

find the study that found 95 percent of the warrents for homocide are for illegal aliens. Thats your homework PVS. then i want you to estimate how many possible mrders that was that took place because the border was not secure. I want this by tonight, i will be grading you on this.

Originally posted by moviejunkie23
find the study that found 95 percent of the warrents for homocide are for illegal aliens. Thats your homework PVS

i think its absolute bullshit
i searched and found nothing.
you need to back up your own numbers with valid links.
as they say, 'figures don't lie, but liars figure'

85% of all statistics found on the internet are lies.
look that up

now its time to correct you again.

"In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding homicide warrants and 60 percent of outstanding felony warrants are for illegal aliens."
its irresponsible, and downright annoying to misquote figures and misinform everyone. im willing to accept that you are not conciously lying, but you need to be careful with what you post, or you do a disservice to everyone here.

-thats in LA, not the country

-'outstanding warrant' is when the police have not found you in order to arrest you. you will find that in most cases where a murder is commited, the murderer is identified, however is able to evade capture, it is because of problems to do with them fleeing the country.

now, here is YOUR homework. find out the ratio of homicides in LA to the amount of outstanding warrants for homicide. since the internet is flooded with these agenda-based figures, it should prove near-impossible. i am confident however, that illegals make up a small percentage of the total homicides. i would bet my ass on it.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150638,00.html
and i quoted from foxnews so you should feel comfortable in reviewing it 😬

Dey tuk our JOBs!

Originally posted by BackFire
Dey tuk our JOBs!

SERIOUSLY!!! all my life i dreamed of one day washing dishes at my local diner for 12 hour shifts...AND THEY STOLE IT FROM ME crybaby

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Which one?

Stopping illegal immigration equates to racism.
I'm not sure.
I think he disagree's with me so he's trying to use my words "I'm the last person to be considered a pawn for the liberal left and what not" against me.
Trying to make it look like I'm insulting myself.
It's a typical far left winger tactic.

Or maybe he wasn't.
Who knows, he probably wouldn't admit it now either way would he?


No, actually, I was not. I was pointing out that this liberal viewpoint was presented on--oh noes!--FOX. Which everyone here hates so much for being e'er so conservative. And I'm one of the people farthest from being a "left-winger" on KMC, so don't start with me.

Originally posted by BackFire
Dey tuk our JOBs!

Dey tuk our JOBs

no the reason i hate FOX, is not becuase thier conservtaives. Thier outright bias. Ten times more then CNN or Abc and such.

the big misconception made by rightwingers is that all liberals love and trust any media station besides fox...based on the knowledge that they themselves love and trust fox.

sorry to go off topic

Originally posted by Bardock42
Dey tuk our JOBs

Dey tuk our DURS!

Even hillary clinton wants to do something about the border, i hope nobody thinks securing the border is a conservative agenda.

It's trendy for young rich white kids to help poor minorites.
It has been for 50 years now.

Thats why i suspect 99% of those who are against strong border control as using it like it's the "new black".
It's annoying.

Everyone was born on Earth, so why should there be restrictions on where people live?

The only real borders are the oceans, the rest are just imaginary.

Oh, please.
Thats the most hippy bullshit i've ever heard.

Originally posted by long pig
Oh, please.
Thats the most hippy bullshit i've ever heard.

So, you are saying that the determining factor on where people live should be their place of birth?

Seeing as people have absolutely no control over where they are born, you are the one with the shit of a bull dribbling out of your mouth.

I'm saying you're talking hippy bullshit.
You basically said "let there be open borders".
I called you out on your bullshit, don't get PMS'd at me, deal with it.

Originally posted by long pig
It's trendy for young rich white kids to help poor minorites.
It has been for 50 years now.

Thats why i suspect 99% of those who are against strong border control as using it like it's the "new black".
It's annoying.

Originally posted by long pig
I'm saying you're talking hippy bullshit.
You basically said "let there be open borders".
I called you out on your bullshit, don't get PMS'd at me, deal with it.

its easy when debating an issue to pigeonhole and use strawman tactics.
fyi 'strawman tactics' are the making of a caricature which represents everyone who opposes your view. rather than have our own reasons for our opinions, you label everyone as 'hippies' and 'hipsters', you declare we are all simply following a trend as opposed to our logic, you declare that we just defend them because of 'white guilt'...its all baseless assumptions which only serve to insult and belittle. quite childish and really not helpful for your side of the debate. there are those who present a sound arguement for your side, and right now they are wishing you had not said any of that, since it in turn pigeonholes THEM as childish ignorant bitter racist name-callers.

please think and present a descent arguement.

edit: and nobody said "let there be open borders."
also very annoying to put words in people's mouths. thats called 'lying'.

You're still pissy that I called you on your own bullshit before huh PVS?

That's my problem with your type, you get called out on obvious bullshit and you have a tantrum.

When you get called on bullshit, you take it like a man, you don't make excuses. the end...have some respect.

Lying and paraphrasing are different.
"Everyone was born on Earth, so

The only real borders are the oceans, the rest are just imaginary."

Read it again, maybe your superhuman power of deduction will show you that

why should there be restrictions on where people live?
means exactly what I called him on, his hippy "live and let live" bullshit.

Get real, use you "straw man" theory on someone who cares.

Originally posted by long pig
blah blah PVS blah bullshit blah blah bullshit blah blah blah bulshit i'm right you're wrong

thats what it looks like to me. a whole lot of crying and finger pointing and assumption and nothing helping either side of the debate. just you throwing a tantrum and making a spectacle of yourself. really, i'm just trying to reason with you but i can see now im dealing with a whiney little child who likes to insult and cry unless he gets his way and everyone agrees with him

quit your crying please and then lets have a debate. until then, *hands longpig a tissue*