Originally posted by Mider
Pheonix is not higher then Eternity and Death is not either Death has been pushed around by the In-betweener who is not as powerful as Lord Chaos and Master Order also She always usually has someone else do Her job She has also been beaten by the Grandmaster thus the Elders Of The Universe are banned from Deaths realm, also the PF has been defeated as well by The unreconned Beyonder as well as the Goblin Force for those of you who will say the original Beyonder dont count the Goblin Force drained Galactus then ate the power of the PH but was stopped only by The Celestials in Mutant X She has also been stopped by Set in a What If oh and What If's should count they are part of other realties that do exist some of those realities have interacted with this one and Goblin Force was not a What If.
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Mutant X is an alternate reality right? The Phoenix force is an omniversal force present across all marvels universes, realities etc. If the goblin Force consumed the Phoenix Force itself then why is Jean still operating as an avatar in 616? Maybe the goblin force consumed a fragment of the force but obviously not the totality.
Also what you forget is that the original phoenix force is a representation of the Creator(TOAA) in our plane of existence.
In 86 the phoenix got retconned into just a powerful force that was made up of the psyches of all living beings. Still powerful but nothing compared to how it was initially.
The retcon has been scrapped within the last 2 years. The phoenix is back to being a representation of TOAA.
GalacticStorm im just stating what i think stop getting all pissy cause its annoying i dont owe you an apology and its been said all through this thread the PF was redone into a weaker character just like the Beyonder and belive me all the threads ive seen about the Beyonder argue about His reconned power and Him not being so powerful so guess what now that the PF has been reconned She is not as powerful and cant do what you say It can It has to work through avatars just to function.
Originally posted by Mider
GalacticStorm im just stating what i think stop getting all pissy cause its annoying i dont owe you an apology and its been said all through this thread the PF was redone into a weaker character just like the Beyonder and belive me all the threads ive seen about the Beyonder argue about His reconned power and Him not being so powerful so guess what now that the PF has been reconned She is not as powerful and cant do what you say It can It has to work through avatars just to function.
U silly boy. U still havent read it all hav u? Either that or youre just not taking it in. The phoenix was originally a representation of TOAA, that got retconned in 86 to it just being a powerful force, it has now reverted back in the comics to what it was. So what the hell are you going about? 🙄