Originally posted by Darth Plagueis
Logical sense tells me that one guy lives in the emperors palace of a galactic empire for decades, while his one-time opponent lives in a swamp.......NOT what I call a schooling......
Ooooo, great come back... Did it take you time to come up with that one or was it spur of the moment. Besides, your comment has no relevance to the fact that Sidious still got punked out by Both Mace and Yoda... How do you know they have fought only once... You don't really.
Sith fans, don't be morons...
Dude, you are a bitter and narrow minded person, you can't take crap so seriousley, and despite my username and shiz, I am not, per se, a "Sith fan" but rather a Star Wars fan that thinks that he who ends up on top is the 'winner' of any contest of will or strength, bereft of any moral implications (or complications).
And, um, my point is kind of strengthened by your whole "maybe they fought more" idea in that HE IS STILL ON TOP BY THE TIME OF THE OT.
Maybe he spent the intervening decades CONSTANTLY spanking the piss out of Yoda (and Maces corpse, zombie, whatever you imagine), you don't know.....You don't really.
Originally posted by Darth Plagueis
Dude, you are a bitter and narrow minded person, you can't take crap so seriousley, and despite my username and shiz, I am not, per se, a "Sith fan" but rather a Star Wars fan that thinks that he who ends up on top is the 'winner' of any contest of will or strength, bereft of any moral implications (or complications).
And, um, my point is kind of strengthened by your whole "maybe they fought more" idea in that HE IS STILL ON TOP BY THE TIME OF THE OT.
Maybe he spent the intervening decades CONSTANTLY spanking the piss out of Yoda (and Maces corpse, zombie, whatever you imagine), you don't know.....You don't really.
I was directing the "sith fans" to general sith fans not you.
By the way... I'm neither bitter nor narrow minded.... Who said I was taking the crap written here seriously it's a forum for STar War's Geeks... For crying out loud what is there to take serious.... From this response you gave it seems you took what I said seriously....
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Here's what I think. I made this account just to reply to this, lol.
Some people throw it in people's faces that Vader killed Palpatine when Vader was wounded by Luke. Alright. Lemme say this.
Palpatine was too busy frying Luke to pay attention to Vader. Vader killed Palpatine, yes, but he was DESTINED too. And Vader was killed as well! Palpatine shocked him with Lightning which inexorably led to Vader's death!
Vader killed Palpatine. And before he died, Palpatine mortally wounded Vader.
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Now, as for the Yoda and Palpatine ordeal, here is my belief. Sorry for all you Dark side haters, but Palpatine was EASILY smarter and much more cleverer than Yoda or Mace could ever dream to be.
He orchestrated everything right from under their noses. He was on the same planet as the ENTIRE Jedi Order and none of them sensed him. So in terms of Force, Palpatine was superior to BOTH of them - though barely over Yoda.
Palpatine could see the future much more accurately. Mace could ONLY reflect Force lightning with his blade - Yoda could do it with his bare hands. Palpatine was trained in Battle Meditation - whereas Yoda and Mace were not.
Palpatine took over the galaxy - with the aformentioned Jedi Masters blind to see it.
Palpatine DID technically lose to Mace. But Palpatine is OLDER than Mace is - and obviously as Chancellor and a public icon - could not train with his lightsabre like Mace could.
Mace triumphed over Palpatine - even though Palpatine took down three Jedi Masters in the total of ten seconds. Anakin did NOT defeat Mace. He wounded him. Mace, losing the one weapon against Palpatine's lightning - was killed by the Sith Lord.
Now. Yoda was more powerful than Mace. I assume we can all agree on that.
Yoda and Palpatine were evenly matched. Palpatine monologued - giving enough time for Yoda to prepare - and still blasted him with Force Lightning! Yoda didn't reflect it the first time did he? If memory serves, he sent Yoda FLYING across the room.
Yoda got up several moments later and force pushed Palpatine. Palpatine IMMEDIATELY got back up.
Palpatine tried to run. Because Yoda is - by no means - weak. Palpatine knows this. And they've never fought before, so to Palpatine, Yoda might very well be the stronger of the two of them.
But Palpatine draws his lightsabre when Yoda does. And they fight. Yoda and Palpatine were very equally matched. They were obviously more powerful than the likes of Obi Wan and even Anakin (at the time).
Yoda finally manages to reflect Palpatine's lightning back on him. And it knocks them BOTH across the room. Palpatine manages to catch onto a pod - as does Yoda. But Yoda slips and falls.
Yoda admits as he escapes that he FAILED.
Palpatine won in Revenge of The Sith, in EVERY sense. He won against Mace (he was the only one of the two to emerge ALIVE). Yoda fleed from him (even though I say they were about even).
Palpatine, guys, won. And I've offered you proof.