Its been entertaining.....lol.....but I think the poll I started said enough of peoples general thoughts on Sidious being weaker than yoda in the force and Mace being better swordsman...61 out 100 voted for Yoda and Mace...although who knows it could change overnight as more people go and see the movie and then find their way here
Originally posted by juggernaut74
If Palpatine was toying with Mace why didnt he let Anakin finish off Mace rather than push him out the window?I think Palpatine was p!ssed off that Mace beat him and took the opportunity to finish him after Anakins slices Maces hand off.
anakin wouldn't kill mace. he already had reservations about killing dooku... and he was a sith. ani didn't even wanna chop off mace's hand. but after he was like, "oh sh!t... meh, might as well turn."
Originally posted by juggernaut74But that was after he made up his mind to join Palpatine... I don't believe Anakin would have killed Mace.
I dont think so.Anakin had no trouble killing the the younglings.
I think Mace put up a good fight... but if Palpatine really wanted to he could have killed Mace easily. But he needed to get into that situation to turn Anakin. It was planned.
all this talk about the lightening messing up Palps face, think about it for a moment. Why didn't he have Sith eyes while he was Chancellor? Maul had the Sith eyes because he was filled with hate and was a full Sith. Anakn had them off and on until he went full time (notice when they put the suit on him, he had the Sith eyes), Dooku didn't because he wasn't really hateful, he was just in it for the politics. So if Palps wasn't "masking" his appearance, then why did his eyes SUDDENLY change?
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
I agree. I don't care what Lucas says...
Then that opinion is invalid. What Lucas says supercedes anything and everything whether you like it or not.
Ever since it was brought up that he said this so many people have started with the "What Lucas says doesn't matter" thing.
The very definition of Star Wars canon is basically anything that Lucas says or states. What he says goes, it's not that what he says doesn't matter, it's what those who disagree with him say that doesn't matter.
I'm not in any way holding him up as some god or anything, but when it comes to Star Wars he essentially is; he's the creator. If I created a universe I could say anything I wanted and it would go too. That's the reason that what he says trumps all else.
There's nothing wrong with having an opinion, but when it disagrees with Lucas it changes from opinion to factually falacious.
Originally posted by mephistodesigns
all this talk about the lightening messing up Palps face, think about it for a moment. Why didn't he have Sith eyes while he was Chancellor? Maul had the Sith eyes because he was filled with hate and was a full Sith. Anakn had them off and on until he went full time (notice when they put the suit on him, he had the Sith eyes), Dooku didn't because he wasn't really hateful, he was just in it for the politics. So if Palps wasn't "masking" his appearance, then why did his eyes SUDDENLY change?
It doesn't matter, it really doesn't. If Lucas says his face was messed up by the lightning, that's the truth, all other factors completely aside.
The reasoning behind his EYES changing is open for debate; the reasoning for his skin is completely and utterly closed, unless an arguement wishes to ignore Lucas in which case the arguement is invalid.
Originally posted by Lazerlike42
Then that opinion is invalid. What Lucas says supercedes anything and everything whether you like it or not.Ever since it was brought up that he said this so many people have started with the "What Lucas says doesn't matter" thing.
The very definition of Star Wars canon is basically anything that Lucas says or states. What he says goes, it's not that what he says doesn't matter, it's what those who disagree with him say that doesn't matter.
I'm not in any way holding him up as some god or anything, but when it comes to Star Wars he essentially is; he's the creator. If I created a universe I could say anything I wanted and it would go too. That's the reason that what he says trumps all else.
There's nothing wrong with having an opinion, but when it disagrees with Lucas it changes from opinion to factually falacious.
Kudos to you my friend!!!! That is how you debate!! 🤘
his face was TRANSFORMED during the lightening attack. that doesn't definetly mean it DAMAGED him. Lucas just said the lightening "makes him look that way". That doesn't mean it made him look that way through DAMAGE to his skin. Because it looks like it morphs like the t-1000, not like the damage to Ani when he BURNS. You take what he says to literally. Lucas isn't the most articulate guy ever when it comes to picking his vocabulary. He says that moment MAKES him look like that. That can mean maybe it burned him, but it can also mean it made him drop his facade so that he appears to change. Don't be so dogmatic, because lucas has also stated in several interviews, including Entertainment Weekly, that he is so sick of these dogmatic interpretations of his films. And again, you shouldn't lecture anyone about the subtle mechanics of the prequels when you didn't even understand how the TF was used by Sidious in Phantom Menace a few weeks ago.