What if Aliens exist?

Started by Quark_66625 pages

It's a hypothetical discussion anyway.

if aliens do exist the creator or god would have placed them so far away in the universe that we would never see them and they would never see us.

Originally posted by High Priest
if aliens do exist the creator or god would have placed them so far away in the universe that we would never see them and they would never see us.

Why would that be?

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
Why would that be?

Because the creator as made space so big that it dosent matter how smart we are are the aliens we would never find each other.thats why we got all these planets in space because thats the sign off the creator power .them other planets are hints that life is out there but the creator dosent want us to see them.

We could be part of a molecule of something so big we have no idea it is there.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
We could be part of a molecule of something so big we have no idea it is there.

"There is an idea--strange, haunting, evocative--one of the most exquisite conjectures in science or religion. It is entirely undemonstrated; it may never be proved. But it stirs the blood. There is, we are told, an infinite hierarchy of universes, so that an elementary particle, such as an electron, in our universe would, if penetrated, reveal itself to be an entire closed universe. Within it, organized into the local equivalent of galaxies and smaller structures, are an immense number of other, much tinier elementary particles, which are themselves universes at the next level, and so on forever--an infinite downward regression, universes within universes, endlessly. And upward as well. Our familiar universe of galaxies and stars, planets and people, would be a single elementary particle in the next universe up, the first step of another infinite regress."

--Carl Sagan, "Cosmos"

Originally posted by Mindship
"There is an idea--strange, haunting, evocative--one of the most exquisite conjectures in science or religion. It is entirely undemonstrated; it may never be proved. But it stirs the blood. There is, we are told, an infinite hierarchy of universes, so that an elementary particle, such as an electron, in our universe would, if penetrated, reveal itself to be an entire closed universe. Within it, organized into the local equivalent of galaxies and smaller structures, are an immense number of other, much tinier elementary particles, which are themselves universes at the next level, and so on forever--an infinite downward regression, universes within universes, endlessly. And upward as well. Our familiar universe of galaxies and stars, planets and people, would be a single elementary particle in the next universe up, the first step of another infinite regress."

--Carl Sagan, "Cosmos"

I took that tele-course in college. 👆

Originally posted by High Priest
Because the creator as made space so big that it dosent matter how smart we are are the aliens we would never find each other.thats why we got all these planets in space because thats the sign off the creator power .them other planets are hints that life is out there but the creator dosent want us to see them.

But just because the universe is so big doesn't mean God automatically chose to put them so far away from us. Hell they could be right under the ground below us or right above our skies and we'd never know it. I'm just having a hard time understanding why you are saying "Our creator doesn't want us to see them." You do not know our creator, you don't know his plan or how he works so what makes you confident in knowing what God had or has planned for the universe and everything in it (aliens included, if they are perhaps, real)?

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
But just because the universe is so big doesn't mean God automatically chose to put them so far away from us. Hell they could be right under the ground below us or right above our skies and we'd never know it. I'm just having a hard time understanding why you are saying "Our creator doesn't want us to see them." You do not know our creator, you don't know his plan or how he works so what makes you confident in knowing what God had or has planned for the universe and everything in it (aliens included, if they are perhaps, real)?

Yeah but the creator wouldnt wont aliens living on earth thats why he choosed us humans to live here .i think the creator as placed other life so far in the universe that we wouldnt reach them and they wouldnt reach us.its like if you go to a zoo you wouldnt but a monkey in with a tiger or you wouldnt but birds in with a crocodile.its like we are in a fish tank and there are millions of fish tanks but the creator dosent wont us to jump out off our fish tank to meet other life forms if there is any.

Originally posted by High Priest
Yeah but the creator wouldnt wont aliens living on earth thats why he choosed us humans to live here .i think the creator as placed other life so far in the universe that we wouldnt reach them and they wouldnt reach us.its like if you go to a zoo you wouldnt but a monkey in with a tiger or you wouldnt but birds in with a crocodile.its like we are in a fish tank and there are millions of fish tanks but the creator dosent wont us to jump out off our fish tank to meet other life forms if there is any.
And in whose image would God create aliens in?

Originally posted by Quark_666
And in whose image would God create aliens in?

thats just like saying how long is a piece of rope . 😉

Originally posted by High Priest
Yeah but the creator wouldnt wont aliens living on earth thats why he choosed us humans to live here .i think the creator as placed other life so far in the universe that we wouldnt reach them and they wouldnt reach us.its like if you go to a zoo you wouldnt but a monkey in with a tiger or you wouldnt but birds in with a crocodile.its like we are in a fish tank and there are millions of fish tanks but the creator dosent wont us to jump out off our fish tank to meet other life forms if there is any.

You did not answer my question.

Originally posted by High Priest
thats just like saying how long is a piece of rope . 😉
Indeed. But you could say the same thing about this entire thread anyway, and you obviously think God would have a reason for putting aliens there. I'm asking you a speculative question.

I believe aliens did exist at one point. Whether they actually crash landed in Roswell, N.M, back in '51 I do not know since I was born 18 years later. What I do know is that their had to be some sort of life on each planet in the solar system and being that the universe is a vast place there had to have been life elsewhere.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
What I do know is that their had to be some sort of life on each planet in the solar system and being that the universe is a vast place there had to have been life elsewhere.

what is your reasoning for that?

Aliens could exist among us right now, in the same space, and we might not even know they are there. Our five known senses may be useless in detecting them. They, as well, may not even know we coexist with them. There could quite possibly be attributes within both alien and human forms that don't allow us to recognize each others existence. We could be living in two separate worlds within the same physical space, even at the same time.

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
You did not answer my question.

what was your question .

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
Aliens could exist among us right now, in the same space, and we might not even know they are there. Our five known senses may be useless in detecting them. They, as well, may not even know we coexist with them. There could quite possibly be attributes within both alien and human forms that don't allow us to recognize each others existence. We could be living in two separate worlds within the same physical space, even at the same time.

yeah that could be true .but why have we got the universe and all them planets in it . what you are saying is more to ghosts and spirts .

Originally posted by High Priest
yeah that could be true .but why have we got the universe and all them planets in it . what you are saying is more to ghosts and spirts .

I think he means that the aliens could occupy the same space but exist in a different dimension. Doesn't nessasarily have to be "ghosts."

I'm not talking about ghosts at all. As far as dimension goes, that is also one theory, but I'm actually talking about aliens being in the form of something we can't detect right here in the same dimension, the same time, in the same space with all them same planets and stars and all that stuff. I'm trying to come up with an example of this concept; Say a whale is swimming along and eats a shrimp. The whale has no idea it just ate the shrimp, and the shrimp has no idea it has just been eaten, this of course is due to size, but they coexist and are not aware of each other. But say for us, aliens are in a gas like form, or light, or something similar to that type of matter, and they run on pure instinct, and to them we are just objects in space that are meaningless, or maybe we give off a chemical in our sweat that they feed off of and we'd never know because we can't see them or feel them, and they have no idea that our sweat is essential to their life, they can just sense the chemical but don't have the intelligent capacity to understand it's source.

Who knows, I may have just described a virus. 😬

I hope that kind of made sense. 🤨